How best get rid of SELinux?

[Craig White]

On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 08:50 +1000, Res wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> >> so your suggesting we should make ourselves suffer for no reason just for
> >> the hell of it? selinux offeres no, i repeat NO advantage over what our
> >> normal security is now.
> >
> > Nobody competent to assess that I know of would agree with that statement.
> 
> You cant know many people, or at least know many that run a myriad of 
> programs, paying customers get to run what they want, when they want.
> 
> I note you neglected to include and comment on the fact that if a box is 
> taken  it *is* taken and theres not a thing selinux can do shit about it,
> sure selinux might be all dandy for some cluless tart who has nfi about 
> securing their pc and is directly connected to the net, but to large 
> ISP's its a complete hinderance and nuisance, but since we have ceased use 
> of all RH products as servers as at EOL of RH9 (the last decent RH 
> released product) and moved them all to slackware, we dont have any 
> problem, tried earlier fedoras, but that was never going to last with so 
> little update maintenance time frames and instability and unreliability 
> (fair enough as RH have said its not designed for our uses), at least if
> we install say sendmail or bind we have one package, not 3 or however 
> many its up to now, and we dont have it butchered and customised to suite 
> RH, since the move to Slackware on servers we have not looked back at all
> and stability and reliability is excellent, ongoing updates in at least 
> equal to RHES time frames, in some cases exceeds 5 years, and to see the 
> the lack of maintenance required, one only has to look at the update repos 
> for slackware and fedora, granted slackware doesant come with as much as 
> fedora, nor does it come with gnome anymore, but compare the programs that 
> it has to fedoras and because of RH's butchering and patching to suite 
> their way of life (smells more like m$ every day) you can see the 
> difference.
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do you have the slightest clue who you are talking to here?

since you obviously don't...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Alan+Cox+Red+Hat+kernel&btnG=Search

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Craig White <craig at tobyhouse.com>