about hardware information

Karl Larsen k5di at zianet.com
Thu Sep 27 15:32:15 UTC 2007


Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Kam Leo wrote:
>   
>> Hi, Mikkel.
>>
>> You're late to the discussion. Tim believes it is not about
>> installation methods but it is not. Please join in. In case you missed
>> it here's a quick recap:
>>
>>     
> No, I just didn't feel like commenting.
>
>   
>> 1. Nelson was concerned whether FC6 supported his Intel processor. He
>> said he was told that F7 provided support.
>>
>> 2. Karl replied, recommending the F7 DVD.
>>
>>     
> Not accurate - he said that you could only do a DVD install. Then
> again, I guess CD and DVD installs are the only methods he knows
> about, and he doesn't know about the live CDs.
>
>   
>> 3. Aaron replied, dissing Karl, and said F7 can be installed from a Live CD.
>>
>>     
> Karl deserves it - between incomplete answers, Telling people they
> are wrong when he doesn't understand what is being talked about, and
> his blog-type posts, he is not an asset to the mailing list. He
> tries to come across as an expert when he knows almost nothing about
> the subject. I think the worst part is that he does not know how the
> gaps in his knowledge make his statements false, and his advice
> almost useless. (I can give examples, if you want.) Add to that his
> blaming everything on the piece of software he is currently trying
> to understand, and it is almost funny. His intentions may be good,
> but his following his advice can be dangerous.
>
>   
>> 4. I responded to Aaron's post and told him to stop dissing Karl. I
>> stated that Karl who may not have properly conveyed the thought is
>> factually correct. My interpretation of what Karl posted is "For F7 go
>> with the DVD because unlike previous releases a CD-ROM set does not
>> exist."  I further stated that if you want the DVD equivalent you have
>> to roll your own set of CD-ROMs.
>>
>>     
> If the way he conveyed the though leads people to the wrong
> conclusion, then the answer is wrong. If nobody corrects him, then
> he will continue to give this type of answer. On the other hand,
> correcting Karl usually leads to personal attacks on the person
> doing the correcting. I have noticed some people are giving him
> short answers without explaining the answer. Maybe trying to show
> Karl what is wrong with his answers. It does not seem to be working.
>
>   
>> 5. Tim took issue with the statement regarding rolling your own set.
>> Tim agrees that Fedora does not offer such a set but that a set is
>> available from a third party. (I'm still waiting for a link, Tim.)  I
>> really don't know where Tim got the impression that either Karl or I
>> said that F7 could only be installed using a DVD. Neither of us stated
>> such thing.
>>
>> This thread began as a media recommendation for F7. It was never about
>> installation method. For some reason Tim believes that it is. What the
>> heck, I like diversions!
>>
>>     
> What is the difference between a media recommendation and install
> methods? Unless you are talking about what type of DVD-R to use, how
> to burn it, or the advantages/disadvantages of burning your own
> verses buying a copy, you are talking about install methods.
>
> If your description of what Karl said was accurate, then he was
> recommending  an install method. But the way he worded it, it
> sounded like a DVD install was the only install method. So is the
> problem that Karl is ignorant of other install methods, or that he
> is not articulate enough to make his point clearly enough that he is
> not misunderstood? It is a problem in ether case.
>
> In any case, I usually ignore Karl's threads, and his problems. It
> is not worth putting up with his personal attacks, and his refusal
> to entertain the idea that his assumptions may be wrong. Any advice
> that does not go along with he current idea of what is wrong is bad
> advice... If Karl want to act like he knows it all, he can fix his
> own problems.
>
> Mikkel
>   
And his never wrong, always right super man Mikkel just loves to run 
down other people. If it makes him feel good then fine.

-- 

	Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
	Linux User
	#450462   http://counter.li.org.




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