Applications for FC4

Kyrre Ness Sjobak kyrre at solution-forge.net
Mon Nov 15 15:10:43 UTC 2004


man, 15.11.2004 kl. 10.31 skrev Michael A. Peters:
> On 11/14/2004 07:51:11 PM, Temlakos wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I realize that we're likely to expand Fedora Core 4 to fill up all
> > four
> > disks and maybe even break into a fifth disk. But, hey--some distros
> > out
> > there have as many as six.
> 
> I have a different philosophy.
> Get it down to two disks - one install and one devel tools/headers
> Pick either KDE or GNOME but not both - I say GNOME.
> Dump evolution - it's become too bloated. Balsa is very good, and if  
> they put the resources in balsa that they have to put into Evolution -  
> Balsa would absolutely rock - as long as KISS is kept - no bloat!
> Dump OpenOffice.org
> AbiWord and Gnumeric are much better - cleaner interface, less bloat.
> Granted - OO.o has a powerpoint clone. But it's still a slow bloated  
> piece of junk.
> Get rid of Sendmail. Go with Postfix.
> Get rid of vixie-cron/anacron. Go with fcron
> Get rid of *SQL, PHP, Apache, etc. Gone.
> 
> Sure - users can still choose that other stuff. That's what yum is for.
> 
> You get fedora down to one install CD and one developer CD with apps  
> that are consistant interface (I say gnome/gtk2+) and then OEM's have a  
> reason to bundle it - their support staff doesn't have to learn 4 CD's  
> worth of software to help Joe 5-pack (one beer short of a six-pack) out  
> when he calls their support line asking how to set up AOL for Linux.
> 
> Oh - and one more thing - don't set up networking until after install.
> That way things like PPPoE can be configured during first boot.
> 
> Granted - my desire is for Fedora to become a good base for OEM's to  
> use for Linux on the Desktop. Lindows was a flawed concept from the  
> start, LotD needs something better. Red Hat's desire is to use Fedora  
> as somewhat of a testing ground for RHEL etc. Since they control the  
> project, I guess they win. *sigh*
> 
While i agree strongly on your *principe* (i was almost going to throw
it up myself), i think you are a bit to radical.

IMO. Fedora should provide the things you need (ie. kernel/hal/etc.,
GNOME/KDE (to late to get "rid" of KDE now...), OpenOffice, Evolution,
gimp, firefox, gui package manager, plus server tools - but i dont think
Fedora should grow into a *has it all* distro. Why? Developer time.
Fedora CORE is maintained by inhouse RH developers, and they are limited
in number and time. Give them a few important packages to concentrate
on, don't bog them down with everything. That is what extras are for.

When i have said that - i think that fedora extras should be more
tightly integrated with core - i.e. anaconda should give you an option
to include extras in yum.conf, and extras should provide an extra CD (or
more) to use during install (not all of us are on broadband...)

Just my 0.02$.

Kyrre




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