An Idea for FC4

[Jeffrey D. Yuille]

On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 19:53 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 18:49:40 -0500, Jeffrey D. Yuille
> <jeffy5 at optonline.net> wrote:
> >       Anyway, this is just a suggestion.  Are there any plans to allow for
> > the automatic detection and installation of printing in Fedora Core 4 when
> > it becomes available?   
> 
> I'm not sure exactly what you want to see thats not being done now. 
> Having difficulty printing over 'the network'  could be the result of
> a number of different problems that would have to be solved before
> printing detection can be done.  So maybe its best to analyze why you
> are having a problem before we talk about solutions.
> 
> You want printers on the network to be detected and configured during
> the install.... as in part of anaconda?  Or do you mean post-install 
> as part of the functions of firstboot?  Asking anaconda to do this
> seems wrong to me.  Having this as in firstboot doesn't seem so wrong.
> 
> But the question i guess is this appropriate for firstboot?  I think
> there is already support in hal for autodetection and
> autoconfiguration of locally attached printers that hal can probe for.
> , assuming no bugs.  For completeness sake having a pane of firstboot
> review the settings and allow you to customize or skip doesn't seem so
> bad, but I'm not sure there is a need. Overloading firstboot with too
> many steps to encompass too many tweaks also seems wrong.
> If you have an attached usb printer on fc3 that wasn't autodetected
> and configured maybe we should talk about why it wasn't instead.
> 
> And my memory could be wrong and the memory of those whom  I asked
> could be wrong.. but browsing of available cups/ipp printers on the
> network is on by default already (assuming your firewall is configured
> to allow the communication to work, and you haven't encountered a
> latent bug in the cups config)
> 
> Or are you specifically looking for auto-detection of Windows Network printers?
> Thats a bit tougher... and requires samba to be running and properly
> configured. Are we going to shove samba configuration into firstboot
> as well as a prereq for printer detection/review/configuration  in
> firstboot?
> 
> -jef
> Hello Jeff, 


      Thanks for the response.  I guess there are some other things that
I didn't state in my original post.  When I stated "network", I was
referring to a small home LAN.  Also, my printer (an Epson Stylus C80)
is connected to a parallel port instead of USB.  Thirdly, all of the
computers on the LAN have Fedora Core 3 installed.  I have not problems
printing locally where the printer is installed.  It's when I try to
print from one of the other machines that I am not able to print.  The
client computers can "see" the printer when I am ready to print but for
some reason, I guess that the print jobs are stuck in the queue and will
not print.   Also, I previously had Mandrake Linux 10.1 installed as my
print server (that is, where the printer is attached) and remote
printing worked flawlessly.  I also noticed that in the installation of
Mandrake, the printer with CUPS is installed automatically.  This is why
I was wondering if this could be done in the next iteration of Fedora
Core.  Also, I have firewalls installed by default (SELinux, for
example).  I hope I clarified myself a little bit here, as any help
would be greatly appreciated.   
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