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Jeff Spaleta jspaleta at gmail.com
Thu Apr 20 15:06:39 UTC 2006


On 4/20/06, David Nielsen <david at lovesunix.net> wrote:
> Those packages were broken all through the FC5 cycle, clearly who ever
> owns them doesn't care about them enough to keep them in shape for
> testing.
>
> Could we please nuke them?

I'm pretty sure those packages were rebuilt for the test iso trees. 
The reality is without automated infrastructure which triggers kernel
module rebuilds in a timely manner any kernel module packages will
have an extremely difficult time tracking rawhide, which can see daily
kernel changes.

This is not a failing due to a maintainer's lack of "caring." Addon
kernel modules in Core, no matter who maintains them, are going to
need scripted infrastructure which triggers a rebuild in the build
system as soon as a new kernel is built.

You simply can not expect a human being to be able to respond to a
kernel build notification at a random time in the middle of the
night...every night... so the gfs kernel module packages can be built
in time for the daily rawhide push to the public servers.   You have
to remember rawhide is designed to gets pushed once a day, a kernel
module maintainer can't show up after the tree goes public in the
morning and request a build and have it pushed to the public trees
later that day. The strict dependancy on kernel version/release that
kernel module packages must meet is unreasonably difficult to track
via human effort on a daily basis given the way rawhide releases are
structured now.  It can be done when the rawhide tree enters a period
of freeze however, which is exactly what happens when the test iso
snapshots are spun up.

-jef




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