Help me triage

Ralf Corsepius rc040203 at freenet.de
Wed Sep 24 11:32:12 UTC 2008


On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 12:25 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 04:30:15PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm trying to meet a (probably overly aggressive) personal goal of 
> > having zero NEW rawhide bugs (which are not Package Reviews) by the time 
> > of Fedora 10 GA.  Along the way I thought I'd post some of the questions 
> > and issues I see while triaging these bugs so we can all learn.  I 
> > encourage others to do the same.  I've just knocked the list down to 
> > close to 500!
> > 
> > If you want to join in and help the query for NEW rawhide bugs excluding 
> > package reviews is here: http://tinyurl.com/6llac8
> > 
> > Here is what I have so far:
> > 
> > # Is there a general policy around using perl in pre/post ?
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462996
> 
> Not that I know of, but it is good practice to avoid creating unneccessary
> dependancies if there are alternatives, particularly if the choice is between
> a large package &  small package. Many perl scripts can be done just as well 
> with a short piece of awk/sed. This makes it much easier for people who want
> to build minimal/small Fedora images because they don't unneccessarily
> bring in the entire of Perl just for a %post script. Not that I want to single
> out perl - the same rationale would apply to unneccessary use of python, if
> the use in question could be easily written in awk/sed.

Fully agreed, but ... consider both python and perl 
* are part of the base-packages Fedora is based on.
* there are other dependencies adding much more bloat to "minimal
installs"

That said, though it's advisable to avoid anything outside of POSIX in
specs' %pre/%post, I don't any pressing need to push people at avoid
perl or python.

Ralf





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