Announcing Fedora 11 Alpha (blink)

[Jesse Keating]

On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 23:24 -0600, Jerry Amundson wrote:
>  
> A screwed up, hung, console wrecks my plan for Linux World Domination.
> And no-one can deny that the X tools have the same basic goal.
> Usability, even for technical tasks.

Regardless of how the X is recovered, once hung, the damage is done.  We
need to work on not having a hang, rather than squabbling about how to
recover from the hang.

> 
> The alternate VT, kill, restart, is more work for me.
> The X -config, change zap setting, is more work for me.
> The server reboot looks bad to everyone.
> If my employer sees me working more, they buy less Linux - the Windows
> servers are faster to administer in their eyes.

The laughing started when you were using X directly on the server
machine to configure it.  Why?  That's why X is network aware and
graphical tools are easily reached either through exported X connection
(ssh).  Aside from VNC, there is no need for X itself to run on your
server, so any kind of graphical glitch would be on the client side, and
a reboot there isn't nearly as laughable as rebooting the server itself
and causing downtime.

Of course, configuration changes shouldn't be done without scheduled
downtime anyway, even if it doesn't get used.

Trying to argue that one can't easily reset the X server on a running
server will cause Linux to fall out of favor in the data center is
laughable at best.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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