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Re: yum cpio: md5sum errors

To Scott Robbins:  Amen


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From: "Scott Robbins" <scottro nyc rr com>
To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list redhat com>
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:12:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: yum cpio: md5sum errors

On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:51:25AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Feb 2009, Scott Robbins wrote:
>> Ok, I got it sorted.  Actually, it's a compliment to the yum
>> developers--it's worked so well for me for so long that I'd forgotten
>> how I used to deal with rpm issues like this.
> Starting from todays rawhide push (assuming there are no other glitches  
> that prevent it from happening :) you should be able to get around this  
> with just 'yum update rpm' as db4 and rpm itself have been rebuilt with  
> md5 digests so the F11 alpha rpm can update them.
> Yes it's un ugly an unfortunate mess but there's no helping it after the  
> fact :-/

Ah, well,that's an important fix.  :)  

I'm going to (most respectfully) disagree that there's no helping it
after the fact.  There is.

On the page giving mirrors put in (again in large font and probably even
in red) a message that one should not run yum -y update but should,
instead, first do yum update rpm.  (Or, before it's fixed, I think the
simplest way would be yum install yum-downloadonly, then run yum
--download only rpm, and give the rest of the instructions.)

It doesn't seem as if that would be difficult or time consuming and then
one follows the Principle Of Least Astonishment.  For example, as there
were no quick results with google, I had to wonder was it something in
my installation, machine, or whatever, rather than knowing it was a
known issue.  And putting it right there, by the mirror listing, ensures
that it will be most likely to be seen, at what seems, at least, to cost
little in time and effort.  As that great philosopher, Eeyore said, "A
little kindness, a little consideration for others makes all the
difference."    :)
The fix really isn't at all difficult IF one is aware of the problem,
and it's not even that ugly a situation as it's a simple fix.  It's
knowingly putting out something badly broken and not letting people know
which makes it ugly.   It's Rawhide, people know (or should know) that
they're treading dangerous ground, so breakage isn't necessarily a
disaster.  Still, playing with Rawhide (for testers and pre-adapters so
to speak) shouldn't have to be a full time job, carefully reading every
post on testing and devel and daily checking release notes. Something
major like this should be clearly mentioned in an easy to find place. 

Scott Robbins
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