On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 10:54, Quentin Hartman wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 10:32, Richard K. Ingalls wrote:
> > Keep in mind the target audience of K12LTSP. Who
> > is the target audience? For me, I believe the
> > target audience is comprised of people like me:
> > Linux newbies and unofficial technology gurus at
> > our schools (probably also full-time teachers, not
> > techies). In other words, Keep It Simple! As
> > long as this project is relatively simple, then
> > newbies can download and install and have a
> > working classroom lab in a very short time. All
> > the tweaking, editing and configuring at the
> > command line or using editors gets to be
> > overwhelming to a newbie (I speak from experience
> > here).
>
> That is the target audience, you are correct, and this would not deviate
> from those goals for that audience. I mean one could just post
> instructions to the wiki on how to do all of the customization that is
> now being done automatically. I think that is what you are envisioning,
> but it is not at all what I propose we consider. I propose that we
> consider working towards taking all of that intelligence and
> customization and move it out of the Redhat installer into a more
> distro-neutral system that can be applied to a variety of distros to not
> only add some flexibility to the project, but to hopefully reduce
> long-term management overhead by making it necessary to maintain a hand
> full of packages instead of effectively an entire distribution, and to
> hopefully get more people involved in building it, and to insulate the
> project from outside forces by not putting all of our eggs in one
> basket.
This is exactly what is currently being working on. The installer
magic is now TRIVIAL:
1) default the network settings to 192.168.0.254/24 on eth0,
dhcp on eth1
2) default the firewall settings to permit everything on eth0 and
ssh on other interfaces
3) select the k12ltsp packages
4) run /opt/ltsp/templates/k12linux/K12Linux-LTSP-initialize
at the end of the process
Steps 1 & 2 could be merged into step 4.
Step 3 can be handled by up2date/yum/apt-get
Jim & the LTSP crew are working on ltspcfg, a multi-platform
configuration tool for LTSP. This will eliminate the custom
scripts I've been using.
As others have noted, it is still useful to have all of this
bundled up with the OS into a single set of ISOs (which are
easy for me to create and I don't have to do it too often).
So we will still have ISOs for the foreseeable future.
But at the same time, there is no worry that we are "stuck"
where we are.
-Eric
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