Re: [K12OSN] perhaps a radical idea

[Jim Hays <haysja sages us>]

As I said earlier, "I love K12LTSP".  Thank you, Eric.  Thank you, Jim.  


Quoting jam mcquil com:

> I've been watching this thread, and others like it for a while.
> 
> What I think you all are missing is that it is really hard to make 
> something as complex as k12ltsp work on all distros.
> 
> The configuration of such things as dhcp, tftp, nfs and xdmcp vary
> on EVERY distribution.  Keeping it all straight will make a grown man 
> cry.
> 
> If Eric takes the time to figure all that out, it will detract from the 
> time he has to spend on making the current k12ltsp what it is today, and
> what it can become.
> 
> The one word that describes my frustration with the thread is "FOCUS".
> 
> Focus on a distro, add k12 features to it, and make it the best that it 
> can be.
> 
> If you spend time working on gentoo packages, so that you can 'emerge' 
> it, you'll alienate all the Debian folks, because they'll want to 
> 'apt-get' it.
> 
> I think you'll all agree that Eric has an enourmous amount of 
> credibility in this area.  More than anyone I know.  Trust him. He'll do 
> the right thing.
> 
> If people really want to see a generic k12 project that works on any 
> distro, then please jump in and do it, instead of talking about what 
> you'd like to see Eric do.  Sadly, people won't even step forward 
> and test the stuff that Eric works so hard on, until it makes it into a 
> final release.
> 
> If you really want a Gentoo or a Debian or a (insert distro here) with
> k12 features, you can start right now by installing the LTSP-4 package
> on top of that.  All distros should work just fine.  You can go to 
> http://www.ltsp.org/ltsp-4.html to start.
> 
> Of course, that's only the terminal services part of the k12 solution. 
> You'd have to check the other packages and see if they are ready to
> install on your distro of choice.
> 
> But please, let Eric do what he does best.  We all benefit from that.
> 
> Jim McQuillan
> jam Ltsp org
> 
> 
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Quentin Hartman wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 10:01, dahopkins comcast net wrote:
> > > A hot topic just in time for the weekend!
> > > 
> > > Seriously, I think that Eric has covered this before, but ...  my two
> cents.
> > > 
> > 
> > I think he has talked about it before as well, which is what got me
> > thinking along these lines originally. He has said often times that
> > K12LTSP is not a distro, but that is what it has effectively become,
> > along with all the cruft that goes along with maintaining such a beast.
> > I mean really, how many projects other than distros have to maintain ISO
> > installation images?
> > 
> > > So you are ready to add to the wiki? :)
> > > 
> > 
> > What I am proposing would not need to be added to the wiki becuase it
> > would (to use gentoo as an example) consist of running "emerge k12ltsp"
> > on a running system, and when that was complete it would be ready to
> > rock. Divorcing the "intelligence" that makes it work now from the
> > particulars of one distribution and making it so that a package could be
> > run on different distros and end up with the same functional result at
> > the end.
> > 
> > 
> 
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