Re: [K12OSN] perhaps a radical idea

["Hedblom Daniel" <daniel hedblom skola solleftea se>]

I think one of the things that make k12ltsp special is that it is based
on RedHat only. Ofcourse one could make a similar package for other
distributions but i think that would make support and such much harder.
Now we deal with specifics regarding one perticular dist but imagine
what would happen if there was 10 different.

I dont say this to discurage but perhaps it would be something for
another group to do? As i understand it is a pretty straightforward task
to make a similar iso based on some other dist albeit much work.
Installing ltsp on another dist isnt hopelessly difficult if you are
used to k12ltsp either. I see k12ltsp as a stepping stone and as such i
wonder if it would be such a wase choice to make it more complicated. 

Anyway i just love k12ltsp and i really hope for it to expand since it
has been such a cost saver and such wonderful tool for me. It would be
to bad if people missed what a gem this really are.

/cheers!

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Daniel Hedblom
Sysadmin
Nipan School District
Sollefteå
Sweden
+46073-0639090
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-----Original Message-----
From: Quentin Hartman <qhartman lane k12 or us>
Date:  Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:04:14 -0800
Subject: [K12OSN] perhaps a radical idea

> Colleagues-
> 	I've been tossing this idea around in my head for awhile now, and it
> seems it has become time to present it to the rest of you. With the
> demise of RHL as we know it, the complexities of relying so heavily
> on
> an upstream commercial distro to tightly integrate K12LTSP into has
> become apparent to many of us.
> 	Rather than moving to RHEL or WBEL (which in turn relies on a
> commercial upstream distro) is it time to start exploring other
> distros,
> preferably a community-oriented one? Maybe Debian? I mean, we're all
> using apt-get on our boxes anyway, so this would provide a pretty
> shallow learning curve for some of the most common tasks, and many of
> the others will be fundamentally the same. I know that fedora is
> technically community driven and would seem to provide an easier
> transition path in the short term, but since it is a fledgling
> system,
> there have been a lot of unanswered questions about just how stable
> it
> is going to be, whereas Debian has proven to be a Rock, for many
> years.
> I've seen these questions raised here and elsewhere.
> 	My personal favorite solution would be to try to divorce the K12LTSP
> system from any particular distro as much as possible by turning it
> into
> a set of customizable scripts that could be tweaked to take into
> account
> a variety of distros. I realize that this would be a pretty large
> undertaking and there are a lot of downsides to this, the most
> obvious
> one being the potential to fracture the little sub-community we have
> built up here, but I think that's surmountable. A look through the
> archives proves that K12LTSP is not the only thing this group is
> about.
>  	For example, I've been playing with making a K12LTSP ebuild for my
> distro of choice, Gentoo. I haven't put a whole bunch of time into
> it,
> but it seems doable, so once my universe settles down a bit, I am
> going
> to tackle it more seriously.
> 	So I guess this post boils down to three points:
> 
> 1- Should other distros be considered now as a platform for K12LTSP?
> 2- Should K12LTSP keep going as a "distro" like it is now, or would
> it
> be simpler *in the long term* to divorce from any particular distro?
> 3- Any other Gentoo odd-balls out there want to help me make an
> Ebuild
> for K12LTSP? ;)
> 
> I realize that these may very well no be popular suggestions, but I
> think they are things that should at least be discussed, and I
> personally would be willing put time into seeing some of them happen.
>   
> -- 
> -Just food for Thought-
> 
> -Quentin Hartman-
> 
> Academic Computing and Networking Services Coordinator
> Fern Ridge School District 28J
> Elmira, OR
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> 
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