Re: system-config-dns?

["Thomas Cameron" <thomas cameron camerontech com>]

> On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 08:18:07AM -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>> The RHEL 4 reference guide at
>> http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/ref-guide/ch-bind.html
>> discusses the Domain Name Service Configuration Tool and refers to it as
>> redhat-config-bind.  Neither of these is present, and there does not
>> seem
>> to be a GUI tool that I can find to configure DNS (i.e.
>> system-config-bind).
>>
>> Now me personally, I favor vi for configuring DNS.  However, I am
>> teaching
>> a RHEL 4 class at the local community college and many of these new
>> admins
>> like GUI tools.
>
> I tried to work with the GUI tool in RHEL 3 and it just sucked.  Badly.
> I will admit to not looking at the most of the gui tools in RHEL 4 to
> see if they've improved.  Some were quite nice in RHEL 3 but others
> (like named and apache) weren't something I would ever want to use.

Oh, I absolutely agree that many of the GUI the tools suck.  No argument
there.  I am just wondering why the docs say that there are tools when
there are not, you know?  Mainly just venting my spleen.  :-)

> When I took my RHCE prep course last year, I asked about the GUI tool
> for configuring bind and was told that none of the gui tools are being
> taught - you are being taught the command line tools.

Really???  Because when I updated my RHCE from RHL 6.1 to the RHEL 3 we
did cover the GUI tools.  Now, the instructor did mention that the tools
sucked and that it was better to use vi, but they were taught.

>> It is also frustrating when I point them to the online
>> docs and they are just wrong.  It seems to me that someone cut and
>> pasted
>> from the RHEL 3 docs without checking for accuracy.
>>
>> So what do I tell these students about configuring BIND?  Is the
>> solution vi?
>
> vi works.  The beauty is that the students will understand more how bind
> actually works rather than just driving a gui tool that teaches them
> nothing.

Absolutely - and I did tell them that the DNS HOWTO was the best doc for
configuring DNS.

>> Also - if I wanted to contribute to the docs, could I as a non-Red Hat
>> person?
>
> You can file bugzilla entries against the docs I think as well.  For
> example, for the SysAdmin guide, see this link:
> http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/sysadmin-guide/s1-intro-more-to-come.html#S2-INTRO-FEEDBACK

Very cool, thanks.

Thomas