Re: 7.1 is out soon

[Kalum / Grendel <kalum lintux cx>]

On  Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Weston Rogers commented thusly,

> I'm tired of people dogging redhat, and how they are becoming a "M$ of
> Linux" If that isn't BS, call me the tooth fairy. 

It isnt BS, I hope you read /. and other NG's about this issue...and
please dont say that /. is BS....  

>Just because redhat wants
> people to see how great Linux is, and get more and more people using it as
> their main, or _desktop_ OS of choice , doesnt mean we should dog them about
> it.  Redhat is trying to make Linux poplular.

I dont deny that RH wants people to see how great linux is and neither can
you say that other distros arent trying to do same thing, its just that a
lot of people are convinced that commercial reasons are distorting RH's
former reputation with regard to new releases and there priorities and
that I agree with them about it.

> I've been with RH since the 5.x releases, and I've been 100% happy.  I've
> acually _tried_ other distros, of course the distros that everyone "claim"
> to be much better.  Debian, and SuSe, which makes you wonder after the
> install asks for the 5th disc when you told it to install a "server". 

WTF are you talking about Debian asking for a 5th disc?? Debian comes on a
max of 3 cd's so what on earth are you babling about here?

And please tell us what are the gripes you had with Debians potato, so if
they are justified I can report them to the relevant authorities?

> And
> most of the 1600 software packages it comes with are useless, maybe not to
> everyone, but less is more, and I rather not get r00ted.

Debian comes with 4000 packages :P And about no being rooted, well every
one of them is maintained by one or more maintaners and these guys are
highly dedicated professionals, and considering the care which the main
maintainers accept packages for there distro it is highly unlikely for
there packages to be "insecure" as you put it.  

> I'm a network adminstrator of a community college, where before then ran all
> NT boxes.  What a nightmare.  bandwidth was horrible, machines were hacked,

If you dont update your NT machines they would be as insecure as unupdated
linux ones.

> nothing was up to par.  What saved the day? Redhat 6.2.  Streamless

I never said Rh 6.x was bad, it was one of the best, my contention in that
RH 7.x left many people like me who were very impressed by the 6.x distros
horribly disappointed, despite my anti RH stance if they can come up with
something as brilliant as the 6.x series I would be the first to install
it.

> installs, easy setup, no configuration woes, and the best part once you
> learn your way around it, its pretty much the same.  Redhat turned my 10 NT
> server network into a farm of 30+ machines , running solid for a year
> without any downtime, and 99.9% uptime.  MYSQL, Apache, Tux, DNS,
> proxy/ipmasq servers all run with glee. 

None of the things that you mention are RH specific, anyone could get the
same thing done with the otehr distros, it dependes on there preferences,
and experiences beforehand with other variants of unix.
 
> We've got 2 7.0 machines that run
> flawless.  I'm estatic on their new release.

Have fun updating ;)

Best Wishes,
Grendel


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