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RE: eudora error Q
- From: Bill Farrell <billfarr ages com>
- To: "'redhat-install-list redhat com'" <redhat-install-list redhat com>
- Subject: RE: eudora error Q
- Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:56:14 -0500
Brother, I feel your pain. I'm also a tiny webhosting company addressing a
specific vertical. My job-title is the same as yours: Cook, programmer,
bottlewasher, den-mother, and He Who Writes Cheques. :-)
Frankly, I haven't seen anything in the *nix world (I keep praying
devoutly!!!!) that matches Deerfield's MDaemon. I realise it's total heresy
(at least in my shop) to mention a product that runs on Windoze, but MDaemon
is the very simplest, most robust, most feature-packed MTA available. I
keep hitting Deerfield's site in hopes that they've seen the light and coded
a version of MDaemon for *nix. It's also cheap enough that small ISP's like
us can afford enough seats to be useful.
Now that Borland's Kylix is out (WOOF! Looking good so far!), there might
be some hope. Maybe some bright, motivated person will code-up a decent GUI
front-end for sendmail and it might be tolerable.
Now, I'll explain my stance with this: we're running a Linux shop here with
15 servers going. MDaemon gets to occupy its own server apart from the rest
of the shop on a Comquack 575. That was plenty enough machine to keep it
happy. It took a total of about 25 minutes for me to set it up and configure
104 virtual domains...click-click-click-DONE. Didn't take much longer to
click-in the users for each domain. If there were an MTA for *nix that
configured as easily, I'd buy it today. Like, RIGHT now. (I trust
MDaemon--I just don't trust M$oft...)
In your situation (BEEN THERE), any port in a storm--right now your problem
is to fix your problem. The best thing to use (religious issues aside) is
the one that solves your problem NOW and gives you the opportunity to turn
away from configuration hassles so you can find something better.
You're welcome to write me directly at billfarr ages com if you have
questions or want to share experiences.
Best of luck!
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: rpaiz gold guate net [mailto:rpaiz gold guate net]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 8:56 AM
To: redhat-install-list redhat com
Subject: RE: eudora error Q
> So why dont you try qmail or postfix instead, just have a look at
> postfixes fully commented configuration file for instance and you will
> never bother about sendmail.cf, m4 macros and all those garbage on it.
Too swamped to think straight... no good answer here. Other than "I am
the entire company, really, and I haven't looked at alternatives to what
came with Red Hat. Why the hell aren't we given an option to install
another MTA, hmm?
> If you can tell us what is the kind of functionality you want
> from a MTA maybe someone on this list can help you to do it
> with something less psychologically stressfull and more
> enjoyable than sendmail.
Simple: I'm a webhosting company. People pay me to host domains on them,
which includes access to their email. I've managed the virtusertable
perfectly (it's not hard), but sendmail refuses to relay 95% of the
email the users try to send, claiming the IP may be forged, or other
such stuff. See the "Relaying Denied... sound familiar?" thread I
started in despair.
For the moment, I've just been going through the logs and just adding
C-classes to the access file. <huge frown> Clearly an act of
desperation, and not one I intend to continue.
But I've tried whatever to fix this, and I'm currently trying to figure
out how to create a .cf file with the help of a couple of (fantastically
helpful) people in order to do SMTP authentication. Of course, then I
have to deal with authenticating all the users and telling them to
reconfigure their mail client...
I think I've got it, it's just frightening to mess with something I
truly don't understand, knowing that people notice a downed mailserver
more quickly than anything else. :( So I built the .cf file last night,
but I'm not confident that it's actually what I need (too many
possibilities), and I don't dare test it until Saturday midnight...
Bottom line: I'm a tiny version of Interland, Hiway, et al. I host
people's sites and mail. Is that so hard?
Sorry to vent... I just thought about it and I'm actually finishing up
my fourth month. DNS, Apache, ipchains took about a week of spare time
each (not much spare time around here)... sendmail has taken the rest.
--
Rodolfo J. Paiz
rpaiz gold guate net <mailto:rpaiz gold guate net>
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