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RE: Partition table still leaves me confused.

From: "Otto Haliburton" <ottohaliburton attbi com>
To: <redhat-install-list redhat com>
Subject: RE: Partition table still leaves me confused.
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:26:36 -0500
In my defense I only suggested letting the mount figure out the problem
because mounting with the ext2 and ext3 wasn't working.  It seems
obvious that the fstype is hosed.  He might use fdisk to store the
correct value in there if known.  In either case if it is ext2 or ext3
and fstype is correct then it will mount it correctly.  Since it quite
common for fstype to be wrong then running trying to fix the file system
with the wrong type could have been disastrous.  Since you are willing
to reinstall WinXP and if you have a need for Mandrake then maybe(your
judgement) it is time to reinstall Mandrake.

-----Original Message-----
From: redhat-install-list-admin redhat com
[mailto:redhat-install-list-admin redhat com] On Behalf Of Mark Knecht
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 12:21 PM
To: redhat-install-list redhat com
Subject: RE: Partition table still leaves me confused.

Albert,
   For the information I see this morning, I believe it is not worth
trying
to save this Mandrake installation. I'm not sure how dead it was before
we
started this process, but I think it looks pretty dead now:

1) vfat is a DOS, if you will, file system, or one of the variants that
Linux recognizes. It supplies the 8.3 filename.filetype names. Look at
your
list of file names:

loca.lho
localh.ost
who i.sn'

Right or wrong, Linux now sees this disk as vfat. The problem is these
are
not logically correct names. It looks to me like Linux names hosed up
since
the drive is misconfigured at this point.

2) Possibly, just one more time, try 'umount /dev/hda3' and then 'mount
-t
ext2 /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3'. If that doesn't work then I really think the
drive partitions are gone.

3) I differ with Otto's assessment on whether you should have let Linux
figure out the file type. man mount, which I suggested you look over,
suggests you don't do this unless you know you're using ext2 or ext3
file
systems. For that reason I wanted you to mount it by hand, with the -t
ext2
description first. Since that didn't work, I think it was not right to
let
the OS figure this out itself. If it guesses wrong it can make a mistake
and
possibly hurt the data on the drive.

4) I do NOT think that you doing what Otto suggested actually caused the
problem. Rather, since your extended partition has been identifying
itself
as Win 95 Extended (LBA) I think something else (probably Partition
Magic
messed it up. I certainly CANNOT say I know this for sure, but the same
sort
of thing has happened to me a couple of times.

5) As an aside, I think you need to learn both the mount and umount
commands, if for no other reason than to just to complete this exercise.
You
seem a bit surprised sometimes at the results. I'm here to help you with
that if you'd like.

   Now, with that in mind, my input would be to consider deleting these
partitions. That done I'd make a decision about what you want to do with
the
drive. Do you want to have multiple Linux installations? If so, let's
help
you get that set up with Redhat and Mandrake both working.

   I think we gone about as far as we can with these partitions, based
on
this morning's data.

- Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: redhat-install-list-admin redhat com
> [mailto:redhat-install-list-admin redhat com]On Behalf Of Albert DE
WINT
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:28 AM
> To: redhat-install-list redhat com
> Subject: RE: Partition table still leaves me confused.
>
>
>
> Op zo 01-06-2003, om 16:44 schreef Otto Haliburton:
> > There is a problem with the file system type as I remember the
earlier
> > emails.  It calls it a extended win95 partition try going from
there.
> > Second I don't think you have to put the partition type in the
command.
> > Let it figure it out itself.
>
> YES! I finally got hda3 mounted?
> Like you said, Otto, without any -t options.
>
> Here's what I got, I suppose Mandrake died peacefully when I installed
> REDHAT, amen..
>
> [root dimension albert]# ls -l /mnt/hda3
> ls: /mnt/hda3/en /etc/.new: unknown file or directory
> ls: /mnt/hda3/open /et.c/n: unknown file or directory
> total 23048020
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root            0 dec 31  1979 ???.??
> dr-xr-xr-x   42 root     root         4096 nov 14  2035 :01 loca.lho
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root     1230315641 mrt  1  2035 0 localh.ost
> drwxr-xr-x   35 root     root         4096 mrt 25  1996 0, who i.sn'
> dr-xr-xr-x   57 root     root         4096 dec 31  2036 :15 loca.lho
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root     980709985 mrt 14  2030 17 19:17.:43
> -r-xr-xr-x    1 root     root     544501614 aug 31  2013 2:01:01.loc
> dr-xr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 mrt 12  2032 (9)?may.17
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root     2003136032 mrt 19  2035 art: ran. by
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          428 mei 29 14:31 bootex.log
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root     741351492 mrt 25  1996 calhost.inn
> dr-xr-xr-x   75 root     root         4096 mrt  5  2035 calhost.rne
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root     1936681068 nov 12  2035 ews (9)?.may
> -r-xr-xr-x    1 root     root     1702065409 nov 15  2035 ?ftp.ot
> dr-xr-xr-x   40 root     root         4096 dec 31  2004 ho isn't. ne
> -r-xr-xr-x    1 root     root     1869742336 nov 12  2035 ing.ff
> drwxr-xr-x    6 root     root         4096 jul 25  1903 inndstar.t:
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root     540553274 jan 23  2009  isn't n.ews
> drwxr-xr-x   42 root     root         4096 okt 21  2016 lhost in.nds
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root            0 dec 31  1979 m??&?
> dr-xr-xr-x   70 root     root         4096 mrt 20  1996 may 18 2.3:0
> dr-xr-xr-x   38 root     root         4096 mrt 20  1996 may 19 1.9:5
> -r-xr-xr-x    1 root     root     1751933283 jan 18  1996  news (9.)?m
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root     1936681068 nov 12  2035 nn.conf?.may
> drwxr-xr-x    4 root     root         4096 mrt  6  1980 office.pos
> drwxr-xr-x   29 root     root         4096 feb  4  1996 ost innd.sta
> -r-xr-xr-x    1 root     root     1953460082 mrt 15  2037 ot.de
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root     958931059 dec 31  2034  ran by.uid
> drwxr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 sep 15  2032 s: canno.t o
> drwxr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 sep 15  2032 s: canno.t o
> drwxr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 sep 15  2032 s: canno.t o
> drwxr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 sep 15  2032 s: canno.t o
> drwxr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 sep 15  2032 s: canno.t o
> drwxr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 sep 15  2032 s: canno.t o
> drwxr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 sep 15  2032 s: canno.t o
> drwxr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 sep 15  2032 s: canno.t o
> drwxr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 sep 15  2032 s: canno.t o
> drwxr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 sep 15  2032 s: canno.t o
> drwxr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 sep 15  2032 s: canno.t o
> drwxr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 sep 15  2032 s: canno.t o
> drwxr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 sep 15  2032 s: canno.t o
> drwxr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 sep 15  2032 s: canno.t o
> drwxr-xr-x   58 root     root         4096 sep 15  2032 s: canno.t o
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root     1847620647 aug 31  2032 start: r.an
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root            0 dec 31  1979 tdb file.?
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root     1650524416 feb 11  1902 urity.oot
> -r-xr-xr-x    1 root     root     1952803698 jul 31  1980 use.ff
> dr-xr-xr-x   52 root     root         4096 mrt  9  2035 y 17 16:.13:
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root            0 dec 31  1979 ??y.??y
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root            0 dec 31  1979 z?
> [root dimension albert]#
>
> Sorry for this late reply, I have been spending the afternoon
> reinstalling WinXP from scratch, since that died also a couple of days
> ago.  WinXP is for my kidz. They are 8 and 12 years old and very much
> addicted to Windoze.  Since I can't run any music under REDHAT, I was
> obliged (yes, under pressure) to get XP back.
>
> BTW I like the installation of RH9 much more; XP did not recognise the
> ethernet card, nor the soundcard. What a mess.
>
> Now I should repair GRUB I suppose; I had to boot RH9 using a rescue
> (boot) floppy, Thanks again for that warning Mark!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: redhat-install-list-admin redhat com
> > [mailto:redhat-install-list-admin redhat com] On Behalf Of Mark
Knecht
> > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 7:42 AM
> > To: redhat-install-list redhat com
> > Subject: Re: Partition table still leaves me confused.
> >
> > On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 02:23, Albert DE WINT wrote:
> >
> > > Here's what I got:
> > >
> > > root DIMENSION albert]# mount -t ext2 /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3
> > > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,
> > >        or too many mounted file systems
> > >
> > > Then I replaced ext2 -> ext3
> > >
> > > [root DIMENSION albert]# mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3
> > > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,
> > >        or too many mounted file systems
> > >
> >
> > OK, I don't see anything wrong with the command, so a couple of
> > possibilities comes to mind:
> >
> > 1) The partition type isn't ext2 or ext3. I think this is unlikely,
but
> > you could try some others:
> >
> > mount -t vfat
> > mount -t msdos
> > mount -t fat32
> > mount -t reiserfs
> > mount -t xfs
> >
> > Look at man mount for even more info.
> >
> > 2) Possibly the Mandrake partition is actually damaged? You said you
had
> > a hard time with installation. Maybe it got hurt?
> >
> >    Assuming that this possible, you could try running e2fsck which
is a
> > program that will check a damaged ext2/etx3 file system and repair
it.
> > First, you want to make sure that /dev/hda3 is NOT mounted. As root,
do:
> >
> > df -T
> >
> > and make very sure /dev/hda3 is not there. If it is not, then try:
> >
> > e2fsch /dev/hda3
> >
> > On my system it just does:
> >
> > Wizard root # e2fsck /dev/hda5
> > e2fsck 1.32 (09-Nov-2002)
> > /dev/hda5: clean, 119786/692128 files, 415023/1381582 blocks
> > Wizard root #
> >
> >
> > I'm interested in what you'll see.
> >
> > - Mark
> >
> >
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