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Re: Red Hat Linux 9 - the end is very near - 6 months

From: mylar <micros50 computer net>
To: redhat-install-list redhat com
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux 9 - the end is very near - 6 months
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:33:34 -0500

On 03 Nov 2003 13:52:18 -0500, Chris A Czerwinski <chrisczerwinski cogeco ca> wrote:

Hello fellow Red Hatters,

On this sad day Red has finally announced by email -
About the upcoming discontinuation of Red Hat Linux.
Red Hat will discontinue maintenance and errata support
for Red Hat Linux as of April 30, 2004 and
does not plan to release another product in the Red Hat Linux line.

It's not so bad. There's always Mandrake, Debian, The NSA's Secure Linux and many others. And, in and of itself Linux is still 100% open source and free. Lousy companies, lousy distro's no support, no commercial distro's ?? No problem. They'll always be non-commerical distros. And, like we used to do in the old days, roll our own homebrew distros. It will take a lot more than SCO, IBM Microsoft, and lack of product and/or support from redhat to stop Linux.

As for the "Enterprise". I never cared much for it once Captain Kirk was no longer in command.

Mylar

This is truly a very sad day.
Whoever has paid for their service recently will not get their money
back, only an incentive to upgrade to their Red Hat Enterprise Linux,
so there goes your money and that faithful support to Red Hat goes for
... (and not for Linux).
You cannot buy Red Hat Linux 9 from redhat.com yet you can buy from
retailers so they will bear the brunt of possible unsatisfied customers,
with no warning that the product will not be supported.

Now lets compare prices of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHLE)

RHLE  AS       x86          basic  $1499 USD     premium  $2499 USD
        Itanium,AMD64,IBM   basic  $1992 USD     premium  $2998 USD
            IBM series      basic $15000 USD     premium $18000 USD

RHLE ES x86 basic $349 USD standard $799 USD

RHLE  WS (Linux 3)
               x86          basic   $179 USD    standard   $299 USD
          Itanium,AMD64              ---        standard   $792 USD

Open Market (no longer supported by Red Hat)
Red Hat Linux 9             basic   $30 to    professional $105 to
                                     $45 USD                $155 USD

and now for the kicker
Windows XP                  home  $83 -       professional $125 -
                                    $206 USD                $308 USD

I ask you -
Does it make any more sense to purchase Red Hat?
Does Red Hat's business plan include Red Hat Linux supporters?
Does Red Hat really provide support for Linux anymore? where and how?
I guess there was a reason for the recent cleanup of our mail list?
I guess that's why RPM is now under the umbrella of fedora?
And what other surprises are their for us linuxers?
Should I be a happy red hatter?
Should I continue to support red hat? as they no longer want my business
only money to do ENTERPRISE upgrades?
All they seem to want is business support, their money and listen to
business problems and not us lowly red hat linuxers.

It's a cruel, cruel world.

I guess SCO is winning and Red Hat is doing an end run, this way their
involvement will be kept to a minimum or minimized. They have changed
their coat/code already. Strange that allegations of SCO's getting
indirect support from Microsoft and no one is mentioning where Red Hat
is getting their's. Could inference be made from IBM and ORACLE - and as
the saying goes "It's never good enough to win; all others must lose."
which infers us Linuxers are left unsupported and now we are proving to
be a liability to them.

Bowing my head low, as it cannot hold it's head high and profess that
the Red Hat will continue Linux support, seems that ENTERPRISE has won
(again) and we will pay the price as all marketers would like us to do.
Programming code and shared should drive prices down and not up, so
where and what's wrong with that logic? Where did the reasoning fail?

Chris


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References:
- Red Hat Linux 9 - the end is very near - 6 months
  - From: Chris A Czerwinski

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