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Re: Making a printer def "stick"



M.Hockings wrote:

Rick Stevens wrote:

Tom Eastgard wrote:

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M.Hockings wrote:
| I now have three working RH systems running at home two RH8 for
two of
| the kids and a FC1 "server".  My problem is this, and it seems to be
| common to all the machines.
|
| I define a printer for the system, it is on the lan and can be
connected
| to via SMB or LPR.  (I have tried both and the result is the
same.)  It
| works fine, prints test pages just peachy.  Next someone else logs
into
| the machine, starts OpenOffice or the like then goes to print
their work
| -- the printer is not there.  If I open the printer tool from
their id
| it says no printers.  So I say make a new one.  Then the original
| printer definition is visible.  So I just quit, and it asks "save
| changes" -- no changes were made though, but I save anyway. Quit
out of
| the printer tool, restart OpenOffice and voila the printer is
there and
| will print.  Then next time a user logs into the machine it is the
same
| thing.  I am sure that my kids can manage to do this if I give
them the
| root pwd but I'm hesitant to do this -- I've moved them to Linux
in an
| attempt to reduce the time I have to spend "fixing"their machines ;-)
|
| Any thoughts about how to make the printer definition stay?  It is
set,
| as far as I can tel, as the default printer in all cases but seems to
| disappear.  I suspect it may be an authority thing, that is, it only
| becomes visible to the user after running the printer tool (which
| requires the root pwd).

I have the same problem with a RH9 installation.  In my case, I only
have to open the printer tool and "Edit".  I don't change anything,
but close the window and "Apply" and the printer is back until next
time I reboot.



The most common thing here is that the printer is being tied to your host name. If you're on a DHCP connection, your host name may change and your printer will "disappear". Make sure you set up the printer and tie it to the "localhost" name--NOT the one your DHCP settings give your system. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens vitalstream com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------


Hi Rick,

I comprehend what you are saying but I don't understand how to do it. I don't see where I can associate a printer definition to a host name. I've looked in both the Gnome print manager and the printer configuration tool and neither have some (obvious) setting to accomplish this.

One thing that I have noticed is that on the FC1 (was RH9) system at work this has never been a problem and it is certainly DHCP. At home all the machines are DHCP but I use the router to fix the IP address based on the MAC address and I keep the machine name the same regardless of the OS loaded on it. Typically the machine name is the name on the case -- the two RH8 machines and the FC1 machine are thus "shuttle", "compaq" and "swift", resp. On each machine I have a hosts file that connects 127.0.0.1 to localhost and the machine's pseudo fixed IP address to it's name. On the machine at work there are no entries in the hosts file -- now I'm wondering how that works. So much to learn (most of my knowledge with comm is with SNA/RJE so bear with me :-)

I have no problem in tying the config to the the machines localhost alias,

Mike


I have now tried removing the second line from the hosts file (the one that maps the pseudo-fixed ip address to the machine name). The printer def seems to stay but now starting an X session I get a message saying that GNOME can't determine the machine name with a retry or continue. I just click continue. How, exactly, does one get the box to understand it's name _and_ have the printer def'ns stick? I have the machine name in every place that I could find for the comm setup (eth0).

Mike




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