kernal panic

tariq samsudeen tariq.samsudeen at gmail.com
Sun Jan 9 10:50:43 UTC 2005


hi,
im very sorry, i've installed kernel2.6.9-1.3_FC2.i686 on Fedora core
1. but anyhwz, is it possible to install kernal2.6 with FC1? do v hv a
kernal2.6 built for FC1?
thnks & regards,
tariq


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>   1. show free space on disk (res gzq)
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>   3. Relative newbie needs help getting network working
>      (Frank W. Zammetti (MLists))
>   4. Re: show free space on disk (jdyke)
>   5. Re: Relative newbie needs help getting network working
>      (Frank W. Zammetti (MLists))
>   6. Re: show free space on disk (Bob McClure Jr)
>   7. Re: XDMCP/Gnome login banner formatting (Rick Stevens)
>   8. Re: kernal panic (Rick Stevens)
>   9. Re: SOLVED (SORT OF) - Re: Switching to static IPs for wlan0
>      (Rick Stevens)
>  10. Re: show free space on disk (Rick Stevens)
>  11. Re: Relative newbie needs help getting network working
>      (Rick Stevens)
>  12. Re: FC3 and StarOffice 5.2 (Rick Stevens)
>  13. Re: Relative newbie needs help getting network working
>      (Frank W. Zammetti (MLists))
>  14. xterm and logon banners (Waldher, Travis R)
>  15. Re: xterm and logon banners (Rick Stevens)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 07:02:09 -1000
> From: "res gzq" <res73gzq at verizon.net>
> Subject: show free space on disk
> To: "Getting started with Red Hat Linux"
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> Is there a way to show the free space on a disk?
> 
> (As in DOS: DIR shows free space available)
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:05:50 -0800
> From: "Waldher, Travis R" <Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com>
> Subject: RE: MAJOR issue with userdel, useradd, etc.
> To: "Getting started with Red Hat Linux"
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> Never mind, problem found.  It was an in house tool that is using
> userdel, add, etc. that seems to be at fault.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Waldher, Travis R
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 8:43 AM
> To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux
> Subject: MAJOR issue with userdel, useradd, etc.
> 
> Ok, we run userdel, and get this from time to time:
> 
> [root at borg etc]# /usr/sbin/userdel jattest
> userdel: unable to lock group file
> 
> We also get this for useradd, etc.
> 
> Nothing but a reboot in the past has cleared this up.  There are no lock
> files that we can find.  This is on a NIS master running AS3.0, straight
> from the box.  No patches.
> 
> This is a major problem for us.
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:15:54 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Frank W. Zammetti (MLists)" <fzlists at omnytex.com>
> Subject: Relative newbie needs help getting network working
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
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> Hello all.  I am a fairly new Linux user.. I have some experience, but
> assume I know almost nothing...  I have set up and used a couple of
> different distros over the past 2 years or so, but I'm pretty much still a
> newbie.
> 
> Anyway... I have a Dell Optiplex GX1 that I'm trying to set up.  I
> originally had Mandrake on it, I forget which version (if not the latest
> than just 1 or 2 versions back).  Problem was, networking was not working.
> When it booted the eth0 initialization would fail and it said something
> about a possible cable problem.
> 
> Well, the machine was set up as a dual-boot with Windows 2000, so I booted
> to Windows and networking was working just fine, so I know the cable is
> fine.
> 
> I decided that maybe installing the latest RedHat would take care of it.
> So, I installed 9.2, installing everything (as I always do because I
> frankly don't know what dependencies I might screw up if I'm selective!).
> The install went smoothly, it identified the network adapter correctly (an
> onboard 3Com, 3C905 I believe), no errors, seemed to be OK.  But, when I
> booted, the same problem as with Mandrake happened.
> 
> I got into a GUI (I assume it's KDE, I'm not really sure, it's all
> RedHat-branded) and selected the Networking option from the System
> Settings menu.  I selected the device (which it says is inactive,
> logically) and clicked Edit.  I noticed on the Hardware Device tab the
> Bind to MAC Address option.  Now, I'm not sure if this is important or
> not, but I noticed there was a Probe button, so I clicked it.  It came up
> with a MAC address, so my conclusion is that the OS is indeed talking to
> the network adapter properly.
> 
> So, at this point I'm at the end of my knowledge.  Any ideas on what could
> look like a cable failure to the OS but actually NOT be?  The only
> remotely unusual thing I can think of is that we use Cat6 cabling here.
> Any chance that's an issue in some way I can't think of?
> 
> Also, it is set up for DHCP.  DHCP is active on the network, as evidenced
> by the fact that I can plug my laptop into the network using the SAME
> cable as this PC and I pull a DHCP lease and have access to the network.
> 
> I'm at a loss and would appreciate any help you can give.  Thank you!
> 
> Frank
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:20:12 -0500
> From: jdyke <jdyke at azimapower.com>
> Subject: Re: show free space on disk
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> res gzq wrote:
> > Is there a way to show the free space on a disk?
> >
> > (As in DOS: DIR shows free space available)
> >
> df [-k | -m | -g] what ever you want to see the size in.
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:52:21 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Frank W. Zammetti (MLists)" <fzlists at omnytex.com>
> Subject: Re: Relative newbie needs help getting network working
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
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> I managed to solve the problem... For whatever reason, it didn't like
> DHCP.  I don't understand why, but when I set it up for a static address,
> all of a sudden everything works.
> 
> If anyone has any thoughts on why I'd love to hear them, but the problem
> is at least solved.
> 
> Frank
> 
> On Fri, January 7, 2005 12:15 pm, Frank W. Zammetti (MLists) said:
> > Hello all.  I am a fairly new Linux user.. I have some experience, but
> > assume I know almost nothing...  I have set up and used a couple of
> > different distros over the past 2 years or so, but I'm pretty much still a
> > newbie.
> >
> > Anyway... I have a Dell Optiplex GX1 that I'm trying to set up.  I
> > originally had Mandrake on it, I forget which version (if not the latest
> > than just 1 or 2 versions back).  Problem was, networking was not working.
> >  When it booted the eth0 initialization would fail and it said something
> > about a possible cable problem.
> >
> > Well, the machine was set up as a dual-boot with Windows 2000, so I booted
> > to Windows and networking was working just fine, so I know the cable is
> > fine.
> >
> > I decided that maybe installing the latest RedHat would take care of it.
> > So, I installed 9.2, installing everything (as I always do because I
> > frankly don't know what dependencies I might screw up if I'm selective!).
> > The install went smoothly, it identified the network adapter correctly (an
> > onboard 3Com, 3C905 I believe), no errors, seemed to be OK.  But, when I
> > booted, the same problem as with Mandrake happened.
> >
> > I got into a GUI (I assume it's KDE, I'm not really sure, it's all
> > RedHat-branded) and selected the Networking option from the System
> > Settings menu.  I selected the device (which it says is inactive,
> > logically) and clicked Edit.  I noticed on the Hardware Device tab the
> > Bind to MAC Address option.  Now, I'm not sure if this is important or
> > not, but I noticed there was a Probe button, so I clicked it.  It came up
> > with a MAC address, so my conclusion is that the OS is indeed talking to
> > the network adapter properly.
> >
> > So, at this point I'm at the end of my knowledge.  Any ideas on what could
> > look like a cable failure to the OS but actually NOT be?  The only
> > remotely unusual thing I can think of is that we use Cat6 cabling here.
> > Any chance that's an issue in some way I can't think of?
> >
> > Also, it is set up for DHCP.  DHCP is active on the network, as evidenced
> > by the fact that I can plug my laptop into the network using the SAME
> > cable as this PC and I pull a DHCP lease and have access to the network.
> >
> > I'm at a loss and would appreciate any help you can give.  Thank you!
> >
> > Frank
> >
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:10:28 -0600
> From: Bob McClure Jr <robertmcclure at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: show free space on disk
> To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux
>        <redhat-install-list at redhat.com>
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> 
> On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 07:02:09AM -1000, res gzq wrote:
> > Is there a way to show the free space on a disk?
> >
> > (As in DOS: DIR shows free space available)
> 
>  df
> 
> as in disk free.
> 
> Cheers,
> --
> Bob McClure, Jr.             Bobcat Open Systems, Inc.
> robertmcclure at earthlink.net  http://www.bobcatos.com
> Wise men still seek Him.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:04:32 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> Subject: Re: XDMCP/Gnome login banner formatting
> To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux
>        <redhat-install-list at redhat.com>
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> 
> Waldher, Travis R wrote:
> > Is there a how to page out there?  Right now it scrolls across both of
> > my screens at 1600x1200, and keeps going for another 10 or so screens if
> > they existed.
> >
> > Would like to be able to change the font size, fix the login banner/uid
> > splashscreen size.  And would be really spiffy if I could add a logo.
> 
> Try looking at /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources.
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:08:21 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> Subject: Re: kernal panic
> To: tariq samsudeen <tariq.samsudeen at gmail.com>,        Getting started with
>        Red Hat Linux <redhat-install-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <41DEDE25.8070003 at vitalstream.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> tariq samsudeen wrote:
> > hi,
> > im currently have a running system(Fedora 2) with kernel:
> > "kernel-smp-2.4.22_1.2115.nptl.i686". i hv installed
> > kernel-smp-2.6.9-1.3_FC2.i686 using "rpm -ivh
> > kernel-smp-2.6.9-1.3_FC2.i686.rpm"...after installing the new kernel,
> > i see it in the grub bootloader list, but whn i select the new kernel
> > i get the following error:
> >
> > VFS: cannot open root device "LABEL=/" or unknown block(0,0)
> > please append a correct "root=" boot option
> > kernel panic not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown -block(0,0)
> >
> > i cud still use my old kernel....
> 
> You never could run FC2 with a 2.4 kernel...it didn't come with one, it
> came with a 2.6 kernel (2.6.8-1.521).
> 
> You didn't say how you installed the new kernel, but that error is
> normally caused because you didn't build a new initrd or didn't specify
> it in your /boot/grub/grub.conf file.  We need to see the contents of
> your /boot directory and the contents of your /boot/grub/grub.conf file.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> -                                                                    -
> - ...Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror -
> -                      and you'd be on your own, pal!                -
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:11:23 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> Subject: Re: SOLVED (SORT OF) - Re: Switching to static IPs for wlan0
> To: Mark Knecht <markknecht at gmail.com>, Getting started with Red Hat
>        Linux <redhat-install-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <41DEDEDB.9030905 at vitalstream.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> > Hi,
> >    OK - It's a hack, but it works.
> >
> >    For the records the changes to /etc/resolve are caused by the
> > PEERDNS-yes line. Changing that to no fixes the issue.
> >
> >    I am still not able to figure out KEY=open syntax in my ifcfg-wlan0
> > file. No matter what I've tried so far it always comes up in Security
> > mode:Restricted, which is probably best for most people anyway. To
> > get around this problem I added
> >
> > iwconfig wlan0 key open
> >
> > to /etc/rc.local and the system comes up correctly at boot. I tried
> > chatting for a second with some robot and it seemed to work but will
> > require the 12 year old's stamp of aproval to be sure.
> >
> >    If anyone knows the syntax for putting key=open into ifcfg-wlan0
> > I'd sure appreciate a note.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 13:41:27 -0800, Mark Knecht <markknecht at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Hi Rick,
> >>   OK, so I've had it with this DHCP nonsense for a while. If the
> >>scripts are somehow changing files that I've written by hand then I
> >>don't like that. I've attempted to set up static IPs based on an email
> >>you sent me some weeks ago:
> >>
> >><SNIP>
> >>Ok, here's an example using static IPs.  Items you need to change for
> >>your local conditions are marked with a "(*)":
> >>
> >>       # Please read /usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt
> >>       # for the documentation of these parameters.
> >>       # Broadcom BCM94306 802.11g
> >>       BOOTPROTO=static
> >>       USERCTL=no
> >>       PEERDNS=yes
> >>(*)     GATEWAY=192.168.0.1
> >>       TYPE=Wireless
> >>       DEVICE=wlan0
> >>(*)     HWADDR=HW-value
> >>(*)     NETMASK=255.255.255.0
> >>(*)     IPADDR=192.168.0.128
> >>(*)     ESSID=sssscnet
> >>(*)     CHANNEL=9
> >>(*)     KEY=s:WEPkeyInASCII
> >>(*)     MODE=Managed
> >>(*)     RATE=11Mb/s
> >><SNIP>
> >>
> >>I've copied the above example and then modified for my 192.168.10
> >>network. I've modified and rebooted but so far it's not connecting, so
> >>I have a couple of questions.
> >>
> >>1) ONBOOT=yes is OK to get it started automatically?
> >>
> >>2) I use Open key management. In my script file I use
> >>
> >>iwconfig key open XXXXX
> >>
> >>is the right format in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0
> >>
> >>KEY=OPENs:XXXXX  ?????
> >>
> >>I cannot find an example of that in Google yet.
> 
> Try:
> 
>        KEY="open s:WEPkeyInAscii"
> 
> You need to put the argument in quotes because of the embedded space.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer     rstevens at vitalstream.com -
> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:15:52 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> Subject: Re: show free space on disk
> To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux
>        <redhat-install-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <41DEDFE8.5030200 at vitalstream.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> res gzq wrote:
> > Is there a way to show the free space on a disk?
> >
> > (As in DOS: DIR shows free space available)
> 
> Yes, try "df -h"
> 
> And PLEASE STOP HIJACKING THREADS!  If you have a question, post a
> FRESH message to redhat-install-list at redhat.com.  DO NOT REPLY TO A
> MESSAGE AND CHANGE THE SUBJECT!  You screw up threaded message readers
> when you do that.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer     rstevens at vitalstream.com -
> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
> -           Give me ambiguity or give me something else!             -
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:22:11 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> Subject: Re: Relative newbie needs help getting network working
> To: fzlists at omnytex.com,        Getting started with Red Hat Linux
>        <redhat-install-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <41DEE163.8070605 at vitalstream.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> Frank W. Zammetti (MLists) wrote:
> > I managed to solve the problem... For whatever reason, it didn't like
> > DHCP.  I don't understand why, but when I set it up for a static address,
> > all of a sudden everything works.
> >
> > If anyone has any thoughts on why I'd love to hear them, but the problem
> > is at least solved.
> 
> It depends on what software your DHCP server is running.  Many older
> Windows-based DHCP servers didn't properly implement DHCP and a lot of
> DHCP clients wouldn't work.
> 
> >
> > On Fri, January 7, 2005 12:15 pm, Frank W. Zammetti (MLists) said:
> >
> >>Hello all.  I am a fairly new Linux user.. I have some experience, but
> >>assume I know almost nothing...  I have set up and used a couple of
> >>different distros over the past 2 years or so, but I'm pretty much still a
> >>newbie.
> >>
> >>Anyway... I have a Dell Optiplex GX1 that I'm trying to set up.  I
> >>originally had Mandrake on it, I forget which version (if not the latest
> >>than just 1 or 2 versions back).  Problem was, networking was not working.
> >> When it booted the eth0 initialization would fail and it said something
> >>about a possible cable problem.
> >>
> >>Well, the machine was set up as a dual-boot with Windows 2000, so I booted
> >>to Windows and networking was working just fine, so I know the cable is
> >>fine.
> >>
> >>I decided that maybe installing the latest RedHat would take care of it.
> >>So, I installed 9.2, installing everything (as I always do because I
> >>frankly don't know what dependencies I might screw up if I'm selective!).
> >>The install went smoothly, it identified the network adapter correctly (an
> >>onboard 3Com, 3C905 I believe), no errors, seemed to be OK.  But, when I
> >>booted, the same problem as with Mandrake happened.
> 
> There is no Red Hat Linux 9.2.  Before everything went commercial, the
> last Red Hat Linux was 9 (no dot, no 2).  Red Hat's commercial products
> are Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 in four flavors: Advanced Server 3 (AS3),
> Enhanced Server 3 (ES3), Workstation 3 (WS3) and Desktop 3.
> 
> The latest free Red Hatish Linux is Fedora Core 3.  Red Hat doesn't
> own Fedora Core, but they are big players in it and use it as the test
> ground for future Red Hat Enterprise Linux releases (RHEL4 will probably
> be based on Fedora Core 2).
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
> -  BASIC is the Computer Science version of `Scientific Creationism' -
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:28:06 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> Subject: Re: FC3 and StarOffice 5.2
> To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux
>        <redhat-install-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <41DEE2C6.5070401 at vitalstream.com>
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> 
> Graeme Nichols wrote:
> > Hello Rick,
> >
> > On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 06:28, Rick Stevens wrote:
> >
> >>Graeme Nichols wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hello Folks,
> >>>
> >>>Could some kind soul please tell me if FC3 (with kernel 2.6.9, I think.
> >>>The kernel that comes with the distro anyway) has any problems with
> >>>StarOffice 5.2.
> >>>
> >>>I am currently on FC2 with kernel 2.6.6 because FC2 with kernel 2.6.8
> >>>clobbered StarOffice 5.2. Wouldn't run! I had to regress to kernel 2.6.6
> >>>to get StarOffice 5.2 working.
> >>>
> >>>Why worry with SO 5.2 you might ask. The simple answer is "I like it in
> >>>preference to OO" Also, I have a whole heap of stuff written in SO 5.2
> >>>and want to stay compatible with some other users of SO 5.2
> >>>
> >>>I have been sitting on the FC3 CDs for some time now but want to upgrade
> >>>to Evolution 2 so now is probably the right time, BUT... not if SO 5.2
> >>>gets clobbered in the process.
> >>>
> >>>All information and experiences gratefully received.
> >>
> >>I don't use SO anymore, but OO can save in SO format so it is backwards
> >>compatible with SO.  At least I've had no problems working with old SO
> >>files.
> >
> >
> > Yep! that's true Rick but my experience is that they're not 100%
> > compatible. Close enough for most practical purposes but not 100%, which
> > I need.
> 
> Oh.  Ok, I get it.
> 
> >
> >
> >>As to SO's compatibility with 2.6 kernels...that I don't know.  I don't
> >>have SO installed on any FC2 or 3 systems.  I still have it installed
> >>on my old FC1 system, but that's a 2.4 kernel.
> >
> >
> > <rant>
> >
> > SO and the 2.6 kernels do not co-habit gracefully. In fact, I am not at
> > all impressed with the 2.6 kernels and their compatibility and bug
> > reports to the kernel folk are treated as though one is a complete idiot
> > and comprehensively ignored. My bug reports to the kernel folk about 2.6
> > kernels and USB related problems resulted in me being told I didn't know
> > what I was talking about, there were no USB problems, just incompatible
> > hardware/bios, even though I and a lot of others suffered USB problems.
> > As the 2.6 kernels have progressed through the various releases some
> > bugs have been fixed and others introduced. 2.6 kernels might work just
> > fine on the kernel developer's machines but in my humble opinion that is
> > not good enough. New kernels should never be released until they have
> > been comprehensively tested on the widest possible amount of hardware
> > and users. Interestingly, there are no 2.6 kernels in the enterprise
> > versions of RedHat I believe.
> 
> That's because EL is STILL based on Red Hat Linux 7.2.  EL4 will be
> based on Fedora Core 2 with a 2.6 kernel.
> 
> As to the USB compatibility issues, newer 2.6 kernels (such as the
> latest for FC2 and FC3) are far more stable with USB than predecessors.
> Also keep in mind that 2.6 kernels depend on udev and a new model of the
> hotplug software.  There were teething problems and many people don't
> quite grok udev, device mapper and hotplug yet.
> 
> > Now that I have got that out of my system, the next question is, If I
> > upgrade to FC3 and SO simply fails to load and run (a la 2.6.8 kernel),
> > can I go back to an earlier kernel, say 2.6.6 or even earlier (2.4 for
> > example) under FC3? And another question if I may, can Evolution 2 be
> > installed under FC2 without major dependency problems do you know
> > offhand? I know I can try all this and see but I would like to know what
> > other's experience has been before I burn my bridges. If no one else has
> > any experience of these questions then I have been known to jump
> > blindfolded :-)
> 
> You can revert to any kernel you wish, so long as you stay within the
> main version (e.g. don't try to go back to a 2.4 kernel if you're
> running a 2.6 kernel...the modutils and stuff are TOTALLY different).
> 
> > Rick, all the best for the New Year,
> 
> Thanks, and the same to you, kemosabe!  :-)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer     rstevens at vitalstream.com -
> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
> -      To err is human, to forgive, beyond the scope of the OS       -
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:58:21 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Frank W. Zammetti (MLists)" <fzlists at omnytex.com>
> Subject: Re: Relative newbie needs help getting network working
> To: "Rick Stevens" <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> Cc: Getting started with Red Hat Linux
>        <redhat-install-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <50869.12.27.179.239.1105127901.squirrel at 12.27.179.239>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> On Fri, January 7, 2005 2:22 pm, Rick Stevens said:
> > It depends on what software your DHCP server is running.  Many older
> > Windows-based DHCP servers didn't properly implement DHCP and a lot of
> > DHCP clients wouldn't work.
> 
> Good info Rick, thank you.  I'm not sure what DHCP server we're running
> any longer.  I *believe* it's running on Unix, but it also could be
> Novell.  We've used both at one time or another, but I don't recall us
> ever using Microsoft for DHCP.
> 
> > There is no Red Hat Linux 9.2.  Before everything went commercial, the
> > last Red Hat Linux was 9 (no dot, no 2).  Red Hat's commercial products
> > are Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 in four flavors: Advanced Server 3 (AS3),
> > Enhanced Server 3 (ES3), Workstation 3 (WS3) and Desktop 3.
> 
> Your right, I didn't realize it, it says Red Hat Linux relrase 9 (Shrike)
> right there at the logon prompt.  My bad.  Dunno where I got the idea it
> was 9.2 from.
> 
> Oh, before I forget... another poster asked me for the output of ifup when
> set for DHCP... I'm a bit hesitant to try it now only because I've got it
> working as a static setup, and I have some actual work to get done (trying
> to test a webapp on *nix for the first time), so I may give that a shot
> tomorrow.  I did in fact try ifup at one point, and to the best of my
> recollection it just gave me the "cable problem?" message.  Not sure if
> there was a switch to turn on more verbose messages or not.  I didn't want
> that poster to think I ignored his suggestion, just putting it off is all
> :)
> 
> Thanks all!
> 
> Frank
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:27:48 -0800
> From: "Waldher, Travis R" <Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com>
> Subject: xterm and logon banners
> To: <redhat-install-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Using exceed, I start an xterm through rexec.  I just get the prompt.
> No logon banner.
> 
> I've tried, /ets/issue, /etc/issue.net, /etc/motd, gdm.conf, etc.  no
> dice.
> 
> Anyone else have any ideas?
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> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 15:01:26 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> Subject: Re: xterm and logon banners
> To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux
>        <redhat-install-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <41DF14C6.3030008 at vitalstream.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> Waldher, Travis R wrote:
> > Using exceed, I start an xterm through rexec.  I just get the prompt.
> > No logon banner.
> >
> >
> >
> > I've tried, /ets/issue, /etc/issue.net, /etc/motd, gdm.conf, etc.  no dice.
> 
> /etc/issue is for local login sessions.  /etc/issue.net is for telnet
> sessions.  /etc/motd is printed out after login.
> 
> > Anyone else have any ideas?
> 
> If you're talking about the GUI login, that's part of the xdm or gdm
> display manager, not xterm.  You need to have xdm or gdm on the remote
> Linux system to send its display to your local X server.  This is done
> by uncommenting the "RemoteGreeter" line and setting it to "gdmgreeter":
> 
>        RemoteGreeter=/usr/bin/gdmgreeter
> 
> on the Linux machine.  After that, you'll need to restart X on the Linux
> machine.
> 
> Once that's done, use Exceed to start an xdmcp session to the Linux box.
> The Linux machine should see the start request and put up the GUI login
> on your Exceed screen.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer     rstevens at vitalstream.com -
> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
> -           "I understand Windows 2000 has a Y2K problem."           -
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:26:38 +1100
> From: Graeme Nichols <gnichols at tpg.com.au>
> Subject: Re: FC3 and StarOffice 5.2
> To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux
>        <redhat-install-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1105140397.3764.12.camel at barney.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 06:28, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > Graeme Nichols wrote:
> > > Hello Rick,
> <snip>
> 
> >
> > That's because EL is STILL based on Red Hat Linux 7.2.  EL4 will be
> > based on Fedora Core 2 with a 2.6 kernel.
> 
> Yes, another lister also posted me the same info. I guess I can read
> into that that the 2.6 kernels are finally becoming stable. Do you know
> which kernel version will be in EL4? I might upgrade to that to test it
> on SO before upgrading to FC3
> 
> >
> > As to the USB compatibility issues, newer 2.6 kernels (such as the
> > latest for FC2 and FC3) are far more stable with USB than predecessors.
> > Also keep in mind that 2.6 kernels depend on udev and a new model of the
> > hotplug software.  There were teething problems and many people don't
> > quite grok udev, device mapper and hotplug yet.
> >
> > > Now that I have got that out of my system, the next question is, If I
> > > upgrade to FC3 and SO simply fails to load and run (a la 2.6.8 kernel),
> > > can I go back to an earlier kernel, say 2.6.6 or even earlier (2.4 for
> > > example) under FC3? And another question if I may, can Evolution 2 be
> > > installed under FC2 without major dependency problems do you know
> > > offhand? I know I can try all this and see but I would like to know what
> > > other's experience has been before I burn my bridges. If no one else has
> > > any experience of these questions then I have been known to jump
> > > blindfolded :-)
> >
> > You can revert to any kernel you wish, so long as you stay within the
> > main version (e.g. don't try to go back to a 2.4 kernel if you're
> > running a 2.6 kernel...the modutils and stuff are TOTALLY different).
> 
> OK. Thank you. (Embarrased blush!) I was aware of the modutils etc.
> stuff being totally different but, due to an overheating of the brain, I
> wasn't thinking clearly when I mentioned going back to 2.4 kernels.
> However, the main thing is that I can go back to any 2.6 kernel version.
> That's good.
> 
> Thanks again Rick,
> 
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Kind regards, Graeme Nichols.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Your files are now being encrypted and thrown into the bit bucket. EOF
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 15:34:21 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> Subject: Re: FC3 and StarOffice 5.2
> To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux
>        <redhat-install-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <41DF1C7D.3060601 at vitalstream.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> Graeme Nichols wrote:
> > On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 06:28, Rick Stevens wrote:
> >
> >>Graeme Nichols wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hello Rick,
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >>That's because EL is STILL based on Red Hat Linux 7.2.  EL4 will be
> >>based on Fedora Core 2 with a 2.6 kernel.
> >
> >
> > Yes, another lister also posted me the same info. I guess I can read
> > into that that the 2.6 kernels are finally becoming stable. Do you know
> > which kernel version will be in EL4? I might upgrade to that to test it
> > on SO before upgrading to FC3
> 
> I have no idea what kernel EL4 will use.  I suspect something in the
> 2.6.8 arena, but I can't be sure.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >>You can revert to any kernel you wish, so long as you stay within the
> >>main version (e.g. don't try to go back to a 2.4 kernel if you're
> >>running a 2.6 kernel...the modutils and stuff are TOTALLY different).
> >
> >
> > OK. Thank you. (Embarrased blush!) I was aware of the modutils etc.
> > stuff being totally different but, due to an overheating of the brain, I
> > wasn't thinking clearly when I mentioned going back to 2.4 kernels.
> > However, the main thing is that I can go back to any 2.6 kernel version.
> > That's good.
> 
> Yup, that should work.  There may be occasions where that might be an
> issue, but I really don't think it'll happen often (if at all).
> 
> > Thanks again Rick,
> 
> No worries, mate.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer     rstevens at vitalstream.com -
> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
> -           If it's stupid and it works...it ain't stupid!           -
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:31:36 +1100
> From: Cameron Simpson <cs at zip.com.au>
> Subject: Re: xterm and logon banners
> To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux
>        <redhat-install-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <20050108013136.GA18246 at cskk.homeip.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> On 14:27 07 Jan 2005, Waldher, Travis R <Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com> wrote:
> | Using exceed, I start an xterm through rexec.  I just get the prompt.
> | No logon banner.
> |
> | I've tried, /ets/issue, /etc/issue.net, /etc/motd, gdm.conf, etc.  no
> | dice.
> 
> That'd be because you're not running a login shell in the xterm.
> 
> Tre changing your incantation to say, instead of:
> 
>        ... xterm ...
> 
> to say:
> 
>        ... xterm -ls ...
> 
> and see what happens.
> --
> Cameron Simpson <cs at zip.com.au> DoD#743
> http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/
> 
> Well, it's one louder, isn't it?  It's not ten.  You see, most blokes are
> gonna be playing at ten, you're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up,
> all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar, where can you go from there?
> Where?  Nowhere, exactly.  What we do is, if we need that extra push over the
> cliff, you know what we do?  Eleven.  Exactly.  One louder.
>        - Nigel Tufnel, _This Is Spinal Tap_
> 
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