USB Palm, Was: Re: FC5 Step Backwards: WAS: Mostly off topic, Evolution question

[Rick Stevens]

On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 15:07 -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote:
> On Thu, April 27, 2006 1:05 pm, Rick Stevens said:
> > On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 12:16 -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote:
> >> On Thu, April 27, 2006 10:28 am, Rick Stevens said:
> >> > On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 22:50 -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, April 26, 2006 7:11 pm, karlp at ourldsfamily.com said:
> >> >> > On Wed, April 26, 2006 3:01 pm, Rick Stevens said:
> >> >> >> On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 14:18 -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote:
> >> >> >>> On Wed, April 26, 2006 10:47 am, Rick Stevens said:
> >> >> >>> > On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 12:52 +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote:
> >> >> >>> >> I have FC5 on a laptop, as well as the newest Ubuntu. I spent
> >> the
> >> >> last
> >> >> >> Palm and Linux have always been problematical.  That being said,
> >> I've
> >> >> >> gotten my old Handspring Prism, Tapwave Z2 and Tungsten E2 to work
> >> just
> >> >> >> fine via both USB and bluetooth on both FC4 and FC5.  It does take a
> >> >> bit
> >> >> >> of fiddling, but it works.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'll have to fiddle with the USB owner issues again and see if FC5
> >> works
> >> >> > better than RH8.0 which is the last time I got serious. Interesting
> >> that
> >> >> > Ubuntu works out of the box with no twiddling.
> >> >>
> >> >> Okay, I just added my loginname to /etc/group behind uucp and now it
> >> syncs
> >> >> flawlessly first time, every time. Man if it was this easy on
> >> RH8/FC3/FC4,
> >> >> I'd have been a lot happier all along...
> >> >
> >> > I changed the permissions on /dev/ttyUSB in the hotplug stuff instead of
> >> > adding my username to the uucp group.  End result is the same.
> >>
> >> I did that first and had no luck.
> >
> > Really?  Gee, I just modified:
> >
> > 	KERNEL=="ttyUSB*",              GROUP="uucp", MODE="0660"
> >
> > to
> >
> > 	KERNEL=="ttyUSB*",              GROUP="uucp", MODE="0666"
> >
> > in "/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules".  Yes, it removes a tiny bit of
> > security, but it works for a lot of stuff without having to whonk
> > /etc/group or anything.  Besides, I'm a lazy cuss! :-D
> 
> No more lazy than me. I've been in Unix for years and /etc/group is where
> I'm more comfortable. I didn't do it the way you said. I did it from a HOWTO
> on the 'net and they didn't have me in 50-udev.rules. I lost it somewhere. I
> try not to keep things around that don't work. Nothing as frustrating as
> finding an old piece of paper with an email or web page on it telling me how
> to do something wrong.

Heheheh!  That's one of the nice things about Linux...there's several
ways of attacking the same problem.  I chose to bugger the way the
devices are presented, you chose to give the user higher privileges.
The end result is that the user can access the ttyUSB* ports, although
my solution allows ANY user to access them--which may not be the right
solution for everyone.  My machines are under close control so I'm not
worried.

And I will have a go at the dual head stuff.  Hang in there.

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