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karlp at ourldsfamily.com karlp at ourldsfamily.com
Sat Apr 8 05:29:10 UTC 2006 

On Fri, April 7, 2006 11:10 pm, Harold Hallikainen said:
>
>>
>> On Fri, April 7, 2006 10:27 pm, Harold Hallikainen said:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, April 7, 2006 9:29 pm, Bret Stern said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have FC4 running reliably on a nice Dell server
>>>>>> behind a good firewall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to stop my ISP from hosting my site
>>>>>> and let my static ip (one of five i have) server
>>>>>> host my web site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems straight forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. I need to change my configuration at Internic
>>>>>>    to point to my servers.
>>>>>
>>>>> DNS: Are you going to write your own or have them do it. Some
>>>>> registrars
>>>>> won't point to a host outside their hosting pool. I pay my ISP a
>>>>> couple
>>>>> bucks a month extra to secondary my DNS entries. They hit mine 3 times
>>>>> a
>>>>> day
>>>>> and as long as I update the 'serial' in my entries, I'm good to go.
>>>>> Search
>>>>> for DNS HOWTO, or NAMED HOWTO for help.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. I need to modify my httpd.conf file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very true. If Apache is running, just point your browser at localhost
>>>>> and
>>>>> you're on your way.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any other suggestions. Recommended
>>>>>> setup in httpd.conf??
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, that's a book. Please be specific with requests, hopefully one
>>>>> per
>>>>> email, as you go along and hit the inevitable bumps. Some things
>>>>> you'll
>>>>> probably end up doing is VirtualHosts and security/login sites, etc.
>>>>> This
>>>>> isn't rocket science, but it can get hairy with the different versions
>>>>> of
>>>>> HTTPD.
>>>>>
>>>>> As long as you're at it, look into fetchmail, or just using your host
>>>>> as
>>>>> the
>>>>> email server, too. That cleans up the MX records at the DNS server. If
>>>>> you
>>>>> do, take a hard look at bogofilter or spamassassin, plus clamav for
>>>>> virus
>>>>> protection. You could look at them anyway if you are going to use
>>>>> fetchmail,
>>>>> which is pretty simple to use. Redundancy is good for spam and virus
>>>>> filtering.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH more than confuses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Karl
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty much doing what you're proposing
>>>> (http://www.hallikainen.org).
>>>> I started slow and built stuff up over the years.
>>>>
>>>> I'm running a Linksys BEFSR81 router between the DSL and the LAN. I
>>>> have
>>>> it forwarding ports for http, ssh, smtp, and ssl to the FC4 machine.
>>>> I'm
>>>> using sendmail for sending and receiving email (relaying it through my
>>>> ISPs smtp server). I'm using Apache for web serving. I'm using dovecot
>>>> as
>>>> the  IMAP server. I'm using SquirrelMail as my webmail client. These
>>>> are
>>>> all included with FC4.
>>>>
>>>> Mostly I go through the config files making small modifications in the
>>>> hopes of getting stuff to do what I want. Before modifying a config, I
>>>> cp
>>>> it to filename.HH.1 where 1 changes with each revision and HH is a flag
>>>> so
>>>> I can easily find modified configs.
>>>>
>>>> One of the changes I made in Apache config is to put the document root
>>>> at
>>>> /home/harold/public_html instead of /var/www or wherever it defaults.
>>>> That
>>>> makes it easy for me to make changes without becoming root.
>>>>
>>>> For DNS, I'm using http://www.dns2go.com. I told Networks Solutions to
>>>> use
>>>> the DNS2go servers for my dns. dns2go is designed to provide dns
>>>> services
>>>> to people with dynamic IP addresses (both you and I have static). Even
>>>> though I have a static IP, I'm running the dns2go script so it knows my
>>>> server's IP address. This came in handy a couple years ago when I
>>>> moved. I
>>>> pulled the server from home and put it in my office for a few weeks. No
>>>> one knew the difference. The IP address changed as appropriate. When I
>>>> got
>>>> DSL in our new home, I moved the server there, plugged it in, and it
>>>> was
>>>> on line. Real simple!
>>>>
>>>> So... I suggest just start messing with it. Decide what service you
>>>> want
>>>> to get working first. Keep banging on it until it works. Ask questions
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>>
>>>> Harold
>>>
>>>
>>> One more thing to try is webmin. I think you can use yum to install it.
>>> As
>>> root, type yum install webmin. Then go to https://localhost:10000 and
>>> login as root. Lots of config stuff available there, including Apache.
>>
>> Harold, your help is great. But (isn't that always one? I'm the Butt
>> here),
>> Webmin hammers the config files. Not in a bad way, but if you want the
>> commented files, forget it. All the comments are stripped out. Frankly,
>> once
>> you get familiar with things, that's not bad either. Since I'm a
>> command-line geek, I use vi to modify httpd.conf, etc. AND, the worst job
>> of
>> removing comments I've seen to date is in smb.conf (Samba). Maybe webmin
>> doesn't mess with httpd.conf? I do use webmin for a bunch of stuff, like
>> running my custom scripts for cleaning up my spamfilter rules. One nice
>> thing about webmin is the ssh front end. I've removed it from webmin and
>> made it so it doesn't run in the browser, too. Nice tool. Rambling here.
>> Time to go to bed.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>
> Thanks for the comments! I haven't used webmin much. I've mostly just
> looked around. Hopefully I didn't delete all my config file comments. I
> have thus far edited config files using pico (which comes with pine).
>
> So... maybe it's best to stick to just editing the files with a text
> editor. Generally the comments in the config files are very good and
> enough to figure out what's going on.

Not necessarilly. Example: I'm a DBA but not for a SQL type database, so
those types (Oracle, MySQL, etc.) are out of my realm so far that I've not
done a bunch of learning yet. I use webmin to manage MySQL databases. Not
much, because the packages I use it for (Squirrelmail and WebCalendar) have
great setup docs. The Custom Commands part of the Others section of webmin
is great for a web-based method of editing whatever files you want to add an
Edit page for. I also use it for stopping and starting my firewall, editing
my SpamAssassin local.cf file and some other files...

Karl

Now REALLY to bed...

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