Re: Netscape 7.0 does not recognize Java plugin.

["Joe Polk" <listuser javelinux com>]

I completely agree. The only thing going for us now is that Java no longer 
ships in MS form with Windows; so they too must download Java. The problem is 
that everything links correctly in Windows. This has to be solved. Things 
like this are a severe deterent for new users. I don't understand why this 
isn't just shipped with RH. And since Mozilla is the default browser, why 
doesn't the rpm just work? 

<<JAV>>

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Edward Croft <ecroft openratings com>
To: redhat-list redhat com
Sent: 01 May 2003 13:10:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Netscape 7.0 does not recognize Java plugin.

> This is a problem that Linus had mentioned back in 1999. He said 
> that in order to "win" the war with MS, we have to make it easy 
> enough for our grandparents to install and more games for kids. Here 
> we are in 2003, and in order to get java working, you have to go to 
> the command line and enter ln -s. Do you think my grandmother can 
> figure that out? That is why Windows is dominating. Not because it 
> is stable, or because it is simple enough for my grandmother to 
> install and there is a plethora (I love that word, ;-) ) of kids 
> games. Until Linux can become simple to install and have plugins 
> like RealPlayer, Java, et al, easy to install the way Windows does,
>  Linux will stay relegated to "geek" O/S. Mind you, I have got my 
> girlfriend using it now, but I had to configure everything for her 
> first. There is no way she would know to download java, install it 
> via the rpm, go to the subdirectory for netscape or mozilla and ln 
> -s back to the java directory. Never mind trying to get realplayer 
> to work. I have long wanted to abandon Windows all together, but 
> have had to stay with a dual boot, so my kids could play games. We 
> need to make this a lot simpler so that anyone can install programs 
> to linux without having to tar xzvf, cd directory, ./configure, make 
> clean, make, make install. While it works for me, looking at the 
> average joe, he is really going to bollux his system up. Just my 
> .02. Ed Croft, RHCE
> 
> On Thu, 2003-05-01 at 07:51, Didier Casse wrote:
> > Please read below:
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 1 May 2003, Carlos wrote:
> > 
> > > I have just downloaded and installed Java plugin j2re. 
> > > Apparently the  package is installed but Netscape 7.0 still 
> > > does not think so and I get the  same annoying message that 
> > > a Java plugin should be installed to see such  and such 
> > > page.
> > > 
> > > I have RH 8.0
> > > 
> > > Could someone help?
> > 
> > 
> > Even after you installed java you have to link it to netscape which do 
not 
> > currently know whether you installed or not. You have to make a symbolic 
> > link like:
> > 
> > ln -s /usr/java/j2re1.4.1/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so 
~/.netscape/plugins/
> > 
> > or if you use mozilla then it's
> > 
> > ln -
s /usr/java/j2re1.4.1/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so  /usr/lib/mozilla
-version_number_you_have/plugins
> > 
> > Personnaly I prefer mozilla. It's better than netscape!
> > 
> > -
> > regards,
> > Didier
> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > Website: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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