Sorry for my poor English. If i boring you, tell me, i can understand. When i have learned that Severn has a graphical boot i think : great ! Now i see this "feature" in action. For me a graphical boot is something like windows : start the computer and everything is graphic until the you switch off the power. What we have in Severn is "strange". Start your system : - grub (cool) - ugly messages from the kernel - some text : "Press 'I' to enter intera..." oh shit, too late - clack (the sound of my monitor changing resolution) - a black screen - a X - a hourglass - a splash screen with a little window in the center (1024x768) - some strange messages like : "Probing hardware", "starting portmap", etc, etc - sometimes no message during some seconds and i think : "Oh my god, my system freeze and i don't know where !" - a progress bar (Good point!) - clack - a black screen (return in text mode) - some text. One second only. It seems i see a prompt login of a virtual console (not sure). - clack - a black screen (in 1280x1024, yet another resolution) - a X - a hourglass - and TATA. This is not the graphical boot i have expected ! It's a bad movie. Time to shutdown the system : - clack - return to the text mode and some incomprehensible messages. This is 20 % of Windows and no more. We can beat Windows or Apple in this game. I understand that the current startup (RH9 for example) is not "user-friendly". But what we have, at the present time, is not serious, not "professional". This give a bad brand image of GNU/Linux. GNU/Linux deserves to have a good graphical boot AND shutdown. But severn is not good in this point. I am sure that RedHat engineers can do better only by using a text console. Imagine : - boot - kernel message - clear screen (add an option in grub to avoid this and keep kernel message). - print the title : "Starting RedHat Linux" - a progress bar (the same as e2fsck for example) - all messages in another console (or more simply store in /var/log/message) - If a service make too much time (more than 20 seconds), print 'waiting for "probing hardware"'. - report only thing that goes wrong : "probing hardware failed, see /var/log/message". - before starting X, print "Completed". - wait 10 seconds before launching /sbin/login to not show the prompt login of the virtual console. For the shutdown, we can use some thing similar. I am not a hacker, and i don't know if my proposal is feasible. I am sure, RedHat people do their best are honest and there is not "marketing" here. But i also honest, and for me, the current graphical boot is "bad" and i prefer the RH9 starting (until we have something better :-)). -- Féliciano Matias <feliciano matias free fr>
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