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Re: HAL features needed



Please, forgive me my brainddeadness. I had just a few hours of sleep. I
am talking about DBUS not hal.

I am so very sorry. I will fix that up and resend it.

Trever

On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 11:39 -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 09:06 -0700, Trever L. Adams wrote:
> > My examples are going to be somewhat bad, but please see through them
> > for the reasoning and the necessity of these features.
> > 
> 
> Discussion of hal happens on hal freedesktop org 
> 
> > 1) We need a way to know if someone, using HAL, is logged in either in a
> > terminal or an X session.
> > 
> > Think of a situation where you have a piece of software that needs to do
> > tasks from time to time (changing of runlevels is likely).
> > 
> > You want to automate this, or at least be able to tell the machine to do
> > it. However, this process should wait (or the shell script that does all
> > the running) until no one is logged in. Yes, yes, who and w might
> > provide that, but I find this a cleaner solution.
> > 
> 
> Uhm, hal is piece of software that keeps a list of your hardware,
> provides hooks for configuring it, and notifies anyone who is
> interested when hardware is added/removed. What you suggest has
> nothing to do with that.
> 
> > 2) We need a way to know if some critical process, such as up2date, is
> > being run at shutdown and allow the app, as long as it response every X
> > amount of time (2 minutes or so) to continue to run.
> > 
> > Think of a network environment and someone is doing an up2date via cron
> > or ssh. Someone finishes using the computer and turns it off. This
> > should pause, in a test or graphical shut down, showing a list of such
> > processes. It should not execute any shut down sequences until this list
> > is empty, or they programs all cease to respond.
> > 
> > These processes should notify HAL, that they need to complete and that
> > they have completed, and have an event handler to respond to HAL.
> > 
> 
> Uhm, no, this has nothing to do with hal. It belongs somewhere else.
> 
> David
> 
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