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Re: redhat abe



Ralf Corsepius wrote:

On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 09:36 -0500, Jeff Johnson wrote:


Ralf Corsepius wrote:






How comes, FE/fedora.us is able to maintain it?

I know apt's code is ... ... leaves a lot to be desired, but it doesn't
require that much effort to maintain the package.




Also not true. The guy who maintained apt-rpm chose to write smartpm instead.


I know. If you're so convinced about smartrpm, why don't you include it
into FC and consider to abandon up2date and yum, rsp. to adopt
smartrpm's resolver into rpm, rsp. to change yum to use that?



What do you think I am, the FC God or something? I do think smartpm is a better biscuit, and I have told all the appropriate people.

What gets included in FC is an arduous and complicated negotiation, and
is usually quite controversial, both with Red Hat and within Fedora.

I trust that the right decision will be made in the end.

Tried smartpm?


Yes, I tried it for a few hours, a couple of days ago.



Good.


As I already wrote some days ago, I am not (yet) convinced, at least I
could not get familiar with it - Too much black magic involved.

May-be I should give it another try and dig a little deeper.



It's early yet for smartpm, yes. Use what works.




Best damn depsolver that I've ever seen, does all the (imho) useful
stuff that apt does (and yum/up2date do not, at least not yet, like back-tracking),


Does smartrpm have equivalents to

apt-get source
apt-get build-dep

These are the features I like about apt and which make apt interesting
to me.

Another feature I am missing in both apt and yum is a usable
--download-only operation.
apt-get has "-d" but insists on its "package name mangling", (FC3's) yum
doesn't support it all, I don't know about smartrpm.



No clue, I (blush) do not use apt, and I'm having a good day when the random rpmdb
on my box happens to be sufficiently functional and populated that yum does
not get too confused.


I'm pretty sure Gustavo would be willing to implement new and useful features in
smartpm however.


73 de Jeff


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