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Re: Services automaticly change firewall rules to open access to themselfs.



Am Montag, den 20.08.2007, 12:54 -0400 schrieb Simo Sorce:
> On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 12:40 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 16:20 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> > > Any thoughts on implementing  automatically port opening for service 
> > > that need to open port access in the firewall
> > > as in when service is started that needs port opening it would 
> > > automatically read some firewall.conf
> > > file for that and open the port automatically according to those 
> > > settings in the firewall.conf file
> > > ( add the iptables rules automatically when the service is started and 
> > > remove those rules when the service is stopped )
> > > 
> > > Doing chkconfig service or service service start/stop and it would also 
> > > open the port for that service in the firewall
> > 
> > I think it's a great idea and would go a long way towards making things
> > more usable.  One of the questions is do you do the firewall change on
> > service start/stop or at chkconfig time.  And I'm a little bit torn on
> > that one.  chkconfig time makes it "simpler" as far as not requiring
> > initscript changes.  start/stop seems like it's probably more "correct",
> > but would then require initscripts to call a new function on start/stop
> 
> Why should it be "more correct" to do it at start/stop ?
> It seem more correct to do it at chkconfig, so that even if you stop the
> service and iptables -Lv will show you what is the "normal" firewall
> situation.
> 
> Letting services poke holes in the firewall is not something admins will
> really love, if I set a rule to block traffic for a certain service I
> _really_mean it and I don't want to have to change the init scripts or
> have to reapply the rule each time I start/stop a service.

No, in fact I would hate it with a vengeance.

If I have an apache server listening for traffic, that doesn't mean I
want people outside my network connecting to it; nor do I want people
connecting to my ssh server.

Why not just disable the firewall altogether? That would have the effect 
you are looking for: all services that are running can accept connections.

> 
> Also what networks do you plan to apply this to? (at minimum you have lo
> and eth0 interfaces, and you may have also tun0 or others)
> all? some? which?
> (I use samba + cifs on a pair of machines and I have firewall ruels to
> allow that _only_ on the vpn connecting the 2: eg. NO CIFS connections
> on eth0/eth1 etc...)
> 
> Simo.
> 
> 



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