Re: [rhn-users] New version on redhat - Fedora + RHN?

[Michael Gargiullo <mgargiullo warpdrive net>]

> On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 14:38, Ken Snider wrote:
> > nosp wrote:
> > 
> > > I would assume for as long as rh9 is officially supported, yes.  I don't
> > > believe that is very long, though.
> > 
> > It's a strange situation actually. I've had RHN "Enterprise" (Now 
> > "Management") entitlements almost from when they were available.. yet now, 
> > thanks to Fedora and the *insane* costs RH is trying to place on their Opteron 
> > version of Red Hat (and the fact that RH9 will no longer be supported), I have 
> > *no use* for RHN any longer. I have little choice but to build my own 
> > repository for our Opteron systems (else their cost savings are lost), and 
> > with Fedora for the rest of our servers, I can't even use RHN anymore.
> > 
> > Red hat goes from receiving several thousand dollars a year from our 
> > corporation.. to zero.
> > 
> > I still fail to see how this is *beneficial* to their business plan, but hey.

Neither do we.  I mean I understand they need to make money.  We
purchased several dozen enterprise entitlements, and didn't renew them
when we got the news that the regular product line is being
discontinued.

I was never upset that we paid several thousand per year to the company
(It was a battle to prove that this was better then paying a one time
free to Microsoft and receiving free updates), but now it's going to be
several hundred dollars per machine... Redhat has unfortunately just
priced themselves out of our budget.

We'll be looking at fedora, but not seriously.  We may just end up using
our Redhat 8 disks, install a base system, and compile from source
everything we need... It's a pain, but build it once on one box, build
the RPM, and distribute it to all our machines is less money in man
hours then the new fee schedule.

I do hope that someone picks up the ball with the up2date service, maybe
Novell/Ximian perhaps?  Otherwise it's us monitoring cert and others
like crazy, build and distribute.

Even if we purchase 200 licenses for RH workstation basic ed at $179,
that will be $35,800 USD / year... for the BASIC edition... We can hire
someone to maintain all the servers at RH8.0 that... 

I understand why Redhat is doing this, but I'm not happy about it.
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Michael Gargiullo <mgargiullo warpdrive net>
Warp Drive Networks