Re: rpm doesn't recognize that apache installed

[Thomas Vander Stichele <thomas urgent rug ac be>]

> This thread arises one more question: are there any plans of implementing 
> something that will check fo actual presence of binaries, not packages. As a 
> good example I should mention Java (precisely JDK/JRE). Both IBM's and SUN's 
> (those in RPM format) do not provide any common feature even thought they are 
> replaceble, so because of this I myself can't write "correct" RPM with _all_ 
> the requirements because I have nothing to refer to to check for java 
> presence... Isn't that weird? I've written for our purposes RPM with oracle 
> libraries, but one of those require libjava.so wich is in both SUN's and 
> IBM's RPMs, _but_ it's not specified in "Provides" section... As a quick hack 
> I install this package with --nodeps currently, but again - it's not a 
> solution. Rebuilding those RPM (JDK/JRE) sounds like dirty workaround, not a 
> solution... 

Well, IMO that is the One True Way.  If those RPM's do not have the right 
Provides, (ie: if they provide java libraries but fail to mention they 
Provide java), then they should be fixed and rebuilt.
If Sun and IBM do not do that then you should do so yourself.
It's still a very real reality that a lot of big software is packaged 
poorly (OSS, OpenOffice, java, ...), and redoing it yourself when you know 
what to do is a very good option.

> Currenly rpm is flexible enought to allow that kind of things to happen but 
> not flexible enought to fix them without packager support. I think nobody in 
> IBM or SUN will change RPM just to satisfy my needs. They have their own 
> agenda so my $0.02 have nothing to do in their business. :(

In my experience Red Hat has been, for example, responsive in any bug 
reports regarding their packaging, and there is a good chance IBM and Sun 
might do so too.  Have you tried ? Suggesting that their RPM's should have 
Provide: java doesn't seem like a big problem from their point of view.

Thomas

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