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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: code server patent
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:02:37 -0700
From: Stephen Pickett <sfbp@microtopia.net>
Organization: REC Software Inc.
To: Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
CC: rpm-list@redhat.com, Christopher Pickett <chris.pickett@mail.mcgill.ca>
References: 3F5F80AC.8030601@mail.mcgill.ca"><3F5F80AC.8030601@mail.mcgill.ca> 20030910222705.GA13566@mark.mielke.cc"><20030910222705.GA13566@mark.mielke.cc>


Hi Mark

Mark Mielke wrote:

> How about a query regarding the validity of the patent?

Well in its defence I would say that the European patent office clearly recognised
where the patent departed from the prior art. Did a better job in this regard than
USPTO, and I think this was one of the factors influencing the eventual grant of
patent in the USPTO.

It's all written up, with dates of relevant material on the website at

http://www.microtopia.ca/europatent.html

I think you'll find the link that essentially answers this question.

> Do you think people haven't done this sort of thing for decades now? How
> many other 'remarkably similar' patents do you suppose might exist?

Ultimately, I suppose the courts may have to decide. But as far as we know, it was
unique and original at the time it was filed.

> What is unique about this patent?

Dynamic downloading of code in a completely transparent fashion, from the ground
up. We actually put together a version of Windows that used the code server to boot
from, jsut to test the point.

If it's so obvious and clear, why are Symbian, Sun, Microsoft, WAP and the others
at a complete lack of standards?

Thanks for your interest

Stephen Pickett

> mark
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 03:51:08PM -0400, Chris Pickett wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have some questions about a code server patent belonging to REC
> > Software Inc. (my dad's company) and I was wondering if somebody here
> > can help me out.
> >
> > It's a patent that describes dynamic (and automatic) software
> > installation over a network.  You start executing some module, and it
> > goes out and finds the other pieces you need (based on the existing
> > "check every piece is there before executing" process) and installs them
> > in the background.  It can also be used for software updates and
> > software subscriptions.  This isn't remote execution we're talking
> > about, the code actually runs on the client.
> >
> > My questions are:
> >
> > 1) Given that you guys are installation people does this sound at all
> > useful?
> > 2) Who can we talk to in more detail about this?
> >
> > I know software patents are considered evil, the possibility of giving
> > this thing away exists, but we'd need some convincing that it would be
> > worthwhile (in a specific context, not general "it's worthwhile to give
> > any patent away" stuff).
> >
> > Feel free to send me a personal email or respond to this list -- either
> > is fine.  I thought rpm would be a good place to start asking
> > questions.  I have some familiarity with GNU/Linux (I work on an open
> > source Java VM called SableVM), my father has until now (!) been a
> > Windows developer.  I have no familiarity with the technical details of
> > rpm, but have used it on occasion (Debian is the distribution of choice
> > for my university).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Chris Pickett
> >
> >
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