RE: Server installation

["Kalevi Nyman" <knworks swipnet se>]

By knowing what ever, you don't expect what  was no-pain, simple config on 7.0 now is a real SHIT, I *mean* SHIT in a Red Hat.

Have any of you ever installed Linux- Mandrake?

Obviously not.

NOBODY should need to be an expert of RedHat's changes in order to install an upgrade.

You may be skillfull, knowledgable administrators every one of you however that does not change the fact that a lot of guesswork is needed here.

I did what I was told, to the letter, but the sendmail did NOT give any signs of life to anybody but root at the console. I have no problems with RedHat  anymore! ;-)

Mandrake works, straight out from the box. NO HAZZLE !

 :-)

Thanks for your time friends.

 For RedHat:
It's time to put your act together, let go of that arrogance, listen to customers and act accordingy!
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"Craig White" <craigwhite azapple com> wrote:
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: seawolf-list-admin redhat com
>> [mailto:seawolf-list-admin redhat com]On Behalf Of Kalevi Nyman
>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 7:36 PM
>> To: seawolf-list redhat com
>> Subject: Server installation
>>
>>
>> Sorry Michael Schwendt  !
>>
>> The reconfig of sendmail.cf did not cure the problem.
>> Senmail does not establish a connection to a calling machine.
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>>
>> What is wrong with RedHat? What does RedHat consider to be a server?
>>
>> I chose to install a server and what did I get? K-office and
>> couple of dozen truck loads of junk.
>>
>> No DNS
>> No DHCP
>> No sendmail. (ISDN)
>> It Still Does Nothing!
>>
>> FTP, telnet and more useless junk flows all lover the machine.
>> Not a deasent network program on the whole so called "server
>> installation". No wonder, people don't try Linux (RedHat) more
>> then once and then sware by hillbilly for the rest of their life!
>>
>> This is (was) my last try with RedHat. From now on it is Debian.
>>
>> By  all !
>> Kindest regars for all but RedHat.
>>
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>I don't agree with this sentiment in the very least. I think the problem
>that I have always had with RedHat is the limitation of my knowledge on how
>to make these things work and so I have worked hard to understand as much as
>I can so I can stop blaming others for that which I don't know.
>
>I think RedHat is installing the minimum for a working web server when you
>choose - server installation. I think that is very smart because it won't
>install all of this software that eats up resources and poses security risks
>and anyone setting up a server needs to 'pick individual packages' to get
>what they want anyway.
>
>Whether these individual packages are loaded at install time or loaded via
>rpm after the original install probably isn't material except that the
>interface for choosing them is easier at installation time if you're not
>familiar with where to find these things like bind, dhcpd & wu-ftpd etc.
>
>BTW - DNS was a choice when installing using server installation. The 'junk
>load' of KDE and other X-stuff was your decision at install time since the
>default (for obvious reasons) is not to include any x software on a server
>install.
>
>Craig
>
>
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