Re: Plea for a reasonable RHASv3 license option

[Féliciano Matias <feliciano matias free fr>]

Le sam 30/08/2003 à 16:18, John a écrit :
> On Saturday 30 August 2003 21:46, Féliciano Matias wrote:
> > Le sam 30/08/2003 à 15:09, John a écrit :
> > > On Saturday 30 August 2003 19:59, Féliciano Matias wrote:
> > > > $349 + $96/year is a very very attractive price !
> > > > Check all the good things there are in the box :
> > > > - development tools
> > > > - desktop (mail, browser, office suite, ...)
> > > > - source
> > > > - server service (bind, mail, web, database, ...)
> > >
> > > There is no licence charge for those, they're given away by their authors
> > > for free. A charge for distribution, documentation and support is
> > > reasonable.
> >
> > You can build a distribution like RHEL (6 arch) for $0 ?
> > Do you know how many people involve around the Debian distribution ?
> >
> > And remember that RHL is free of charge.
> 
> That's substantially what I said about the software. However, according to Red 
> Hat, Red Hat Linux is not just the software.
> 
> Read its Trademark guidelines.
> 

Replace redhat-logos package.

> >
> > > > - support
> > >
> > > There's the problem. For many people, Red Hat does not offer a support
> > > package they want.
> >
> > What do you want ?
> > A better support or a less expensive support ?
> 
> A less expensive support package than Red Hat currently provides. It doesn't 
> have to be so all-encompasing. Like the person who started this thread, I am 
> able to sort out the technical aspects myself.
> 
> > It seems to me that this thread is mostly around the price. If the price
> > is not right to you, pick another distribution.
> 
> Of course. My desktop's running Debian, and my servers too by years' end.
> 
> > If you find better than RHEL offer, that's great and perhaps RedHat will
> > change somethings.
> > If you can't find better than RHEL offer, this means that RedHat is
> > right.
> 
> The original author said, and I agreed, that Red Hat does not provide a 
> package the provides the level of support we wish, at any price.
> 

At any price ? Sure ?
If it's not a price problem, buy RHEL AS premium.

> 
> Even free of charge, I don't see the value in RHN over what I can have without 
> it, free of charge. Indeed, RHN may cost me more money than the use of its 
> free-of-charge non-RHN channel.
> 

Don't use it if you don't see its value.

> Many small businesses here have Internet accounts where they have a "free" 
> allocation, and they pay extra dollars if they exceed that allocation. The 
> lowest extra charge in my area is 6c/megabyte - $60/gigabyte.
> 
> OTOH there are mirrors of much of the Internet attached to local networks 
> (WAIX here) from which downloads are free, they are not charged against the 
> monthly allocation.
> 
> Currently the Australian dollar is worth about 60c US, so halve those numbers 
> to have a sense of what they mean in Euros or US dollars: double US prices 
> for ours.
> 
> I can buy a new PC for less than RH wants me to pay for RHEL to run on it