Re: Quick cluster licensing question

[Jeffrey Siegal <jbs quiotix com>]

Also, there are some provisions of copyright law that explicitly define 
distribution in some cases not involving money as commercial.  For 
example, distribution of more than a certain number of copies or dollar 
value, or distribution with an expectation of getting something in 
return later.

On Dec 17, 2004, at 11:54, Jeffrey Siegal wrote:

> It involves commerce, but not necessarily money.  Barter is commerce, 
> as are things like free samples given away to promote a product or 
> service.
>
> On Dec 17, 2004, at 11:44, Collins, Kevin (MindWorks) wrote:
>
> > Its all semantics, but commercial derives from commerce, which 
> > involves
> > exchanging money for goods or services...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: taroon-list-bounces redhat com
> > [mailto:taroon-list-bounces redhat com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Siegal
> > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 11:36 AM
> > To: Discussion of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 (Taroon)
> > Subject: Re: Quick cluster licensing question
> >
> >
> > It probably doesn't mean "money changes hands" but giving a copy or 
> > two
> >
> > to a personal friend is probably not commercial distribution.
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2004, at 10:01, Collins, Kevin (MindWorks) wrote:
> >
> > > And by "commercial redistribution", one would infer that means money
> > > changes hands. So giving it away is completely legit...
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: taroon-list-bounces redhat com
> > > [mailto:taroon-list-bounces redhat com] On Behalf Of Jay Turner
> > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 9:56 AM
> > > To: Discussion of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 (Taroon)
> > > Subject: Re: Quick cluster licensing question
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 10:09:00AM -0500, William Hooper wrote:
> > > > I agree with most of what Jay said, except...
> > > >
> > > > Jay Turner said:
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > You friend wants RHEL,
> > > > > hand him/her your discs/access to the code and he will be up and
> > > running
> > > > > at no cost.
> > > >
> > > > This could be at odds with Red Hat's Trademark guidelines (because
> > you
> > > > would be distributing their trademarked material along with the
> > > software).
> > > >  This is the real reason all of these rebuild exist, to removed RH's
> > > > trademarks where needed.
> > >
> > > And oddly enough, even reading the EULA myself right now, I'm
> > confused.
> > > "Customer should read the information
> > >     found at http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/trademark/ before
> > >     distributing a copy of the Software, regardless of whether it has
> > >     been modified.  If Customer makes a commercial redistribution of
> > >     the Software, unless a separate agreement with Red Hat is 
> > > executed
> > >     or other permission granted, then Customer must modify the files
> > >     identified as ~ ~\REDHAT-LOGOS~@~] and ~ ~\anaconda-images~@~] to
> > >     remove all images containing the ~ ~\Red Hat~ ~] trademark or the
> > >     ~ ~\Shadowman~@~] logo.  Merely deleting these files may corrupt
> > >     the Software."
> > >
> > > That seems to imply that non-commercial redistribution doesn't 
> > > require
> > > modification.  Heck, I'm guilty of violating my own company's EULA if
> >
> > > it
> > >
> > > has your meaning :-)
> > >
> > > - jkt
> > >
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> > > Hat,
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> > >
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