Re: Unable to install RHEL3 U9 on a AM2-based Mainboard

[Andre Schubert <andre km3 de>]

Hi,

there is no panic with RHEL5-Install-CD.
Thank you for your informations. I know that i cant use this board with RHEL3.
Now i have understood where the problem seems to be located,
and at which point in the booting process the panic occurs.

Thanks,
Andre Schubert


On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:24:49 -0500
"Paul Krizak" <paul krizak amd com> wrote:

> What happens if you boot from a RHEL4 or (preferably) RHEL5 install CD?
> 
> Or FC7?
> 
> I'm fairly convinced from what I've read so far that you're trying to 
> put a square peg in a round hole -- RHEL3 simply does not work on 
> cutting edge hardware, since it's been end-of-lifed.  Your ASRock 
> motherboard probably has some funky BIOS or chipset bits that are 
> confusing the ancient RHEL3 kernel and causing it to panic.
> 
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> 
> Andre Schubert wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > this panic occurs when booting from the RHEL3-Install-CD.
> > Based on your informations, i have disabled the onboard SATA-Controller
> > and installed a 3Ware raid-controller, but the panic always occurs.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Andre Schubert
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:26:54 -0500
> > "Paul Krizak" <paul krizak amd com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Weird.
> >>
> >> The "swapper" process was on the stack (as pid #1) when the system 
> >> paniced.  So perhaps the kernel is trying to initialize swap space using 
> >> a poorly-supported SATA controller, or the wrong driver is getting 
> >> loaded for your memory controller (remember, AM2 is DDR2, previous stuff 
> >> was DDR1)
> >>
> >> Is this a fresh install of RHEL3?  If you're able to do a fresh install 
> >> but then the kernel panics on the first "real" boot (or panics when 
> >> booting off the install CD) then we might be looking at a bug here.
> >>
> >> But if this was just a hardware upgrade, with no change to the OS 
> >> already on the hard disk, then it may just be that the initrd doesn't 
> >> contain the appropriate driver for your new memory controller or SATA 
> >> controller.  If this is the case, you'll need to boot from the rescue CD 
> >> and do some initrd voodoo to get your system back up and running.  Or, 
> >> just do a fresh install.
> >>
> >> Finally, keep in mind that RHEL is designed for enterprise customers 
> >> that can depend on hardware on the compatibility list to work.  It 
> >> sounds like you're trying to install RHEL on commodity desktop hardware, 
> >> which is most likely not on the compatibility list.  RHEL3 is *old*, and 
> >> thus does not work well with new hardware.  Big names like HP and Sun 
> >> were able to get their new AM2-based workstations on the RHEL3 
> >> compatibility list because they helped Red Hat by providing updated 
> >> drivers for everything.  "ASRock" probably did not do that.
> >>
> >> If this is for a home system, I'd recommend something like Fedora Core 
> >> 7, which will have *much* better hardware support than RHEL3, but isn't 
> >> necessarily an "enterprise" OS.  If you *need* an enterprise OS, try 
> >> RHEL5 and see if it works for you.
> >>
> >> Paul Krizak                         5900 E. Ben White Blvd. MS 625
> >> Advanced Micro Devices              Austin, TX  78741
> >> Linux/Unix Systems Engineering      Phone: (512) 602-8775
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> >>
> >>
> >> Andre Schubert wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> i have tried all these kernel parameters, nothing helped.
> >>> I also have tried to disable all the onboard-stuff and nothing helped.
> >>> The hardware is a ASRock ALiveSATA2-GLAN with VIA K8T890 Chipset
> >>> and a AMD Sempron 3200+ (64Bit).
> >>> I also have tried a ASUS-M2V with a AMD Athlon 3800+ wich also doesnt work.
> >>> I also have tried the 64-Bit version with no luck.
> >>>
> >>> This is the RHEL3-i386-U9 kernel-panic, wich is always the same.
> >>>
> >>> Oops: 0000
> >>> CPU:    0
> >>> EIP:    0060:[<c010c539>]    Not tainted
> >>> EFLAGS: 00010002
> >>>
> >>> EIP is at (2.4.21-50.ELBOOT/i686)
> >>> eax: 00000000   ebx: fffffed0   ecx: ffffffed   edx: c02beed0
> >>> esi: 00000293   edi: 00000000   ebp: ffffffed   esp: f7ff3f58
> >>> ds: 0068   es: 0068   ss: 0068
> >>> Process swapper (pid: 1, stackpage=f7ff3000)
> >>> Stack: ffffffed 00000000 c0312d40 c01c43ac ffffffed c36c1000 00000000 00000000
> >>>        c0312d40 00000000 00000000 c01c4d96 c0312d40 00000001 00000001 00000001
> >>>        00000001 00000001 00000001 00000001 00000001 00000001 00000001 00000000
> >>> Call trace:   [<c01c43ac>]  (0xf7ff3f64)
> >>> [<c01c4d96>]  (0xf7ff3f84)
> >>> [<c0107028>]  (0xf7ff3fd8)
> >>> [<c0107036>]  (0xf7ff3fdc)
> >>> [<c0107028>]  (0xf7ff3fe0)
> >>> [<c0108fe1>]  (0xf7ff3ff0)
> >>>
> >>> Code: ff 50 10 58 eb d3 90 57 56 53 8b 74 24 10 89 f2 c1 e2 04 8d
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Andre Schubert
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:30:58 -0500
> >>> "Paul Krizak" <paul krizak amd com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> We had issues getting RHEL3/4 to install on newer AMD-based hardware for 
> >>>> various reasons.  Try one of these on the kernel cmd line:
> >>>>
> >>>> * noapic nolapic acpi=off
> >>>> * pci=conf1
> >>>> * nmi_watchdog=0
> >>>>
> >>>> If you still can't get the kernel to boot, post the output here and we 
> >>>> can take a look.
> >>>>
> >>>> What specific kind of hardware are you trying to install on?
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul Krizak                         5900 E. Ben White Blvd. MS 625
> >>>> Advanced Micro Devices              Austin, TX  78741
> >>>> Linux/Unix Systems Engineering      Phone: (512) 602-8775
> >>>> Silicon Design Division             Cell:  (512) 791-0686
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Andre Schubert wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> i recently bought a mainboard with an AM2-socket.
> >>>>> Everytime i try to install RHEL3 U9 i got a kernel-panic during booting.
> >>>>> The kernel-panic is always the same and always reproducible.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For testing purposes a had time to test another mainboard from a different vendor,
> >>>>> with different ram/harddrives/cdrom etc., but the kernel panic is still the same.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are there any know issues on installing RHEL3 U9 on a AM2-socket mainboard ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have absolutely no idea what to do next.
> >>>>> Hope someone could help me a little bit ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>> Andre Schubert
> >>>>>
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