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Re: Draft proposal for using full anaconda as the default Fedora download



On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 03:09 +0000, inode0 wrote:
> Well, this is what was worrying me about this discussion. I think the
> live media (or some sort of live media) really has tremendous value at
> events big and small. If this leads to an effort to make better live
> media I'm all for it. Getting rid of live media is going to be a tough
> sell to those of us who see its value.

Is the value in demoing *in the booth* or giving to people to take home?

> > Maybe at events, but it is promoted as such on the website. I'm not sure
> > what % of installs originate from event-distributed media but would it
> > be the majority? I think online is probably the primary distribution
> > channel? (Does that seem sensical?)
> 
> I'm sure the number of installs generated by the website dwarfs the
> number from media distributed at events. We probably only give out
> around 6k pieces of media per release in North America so I hope other
> installation sources contribute more to our user base.
> 
Ah. So it may not be worth mentioning events much at all in the
proposal. Sorry for stringing it in, especially in such a misinformed
light, I'm very sorry - I don't know much about which media is produced
in what numbers, but thought we had handed out a lot more live media
than DVD at shows I've been boothing at in recent memory.

> >> >From the perspective of someone who has handed out such media at
> >> events, if the install to hard drive option on the live media is
> >> causing issues my suggestion is to remove it. The live media has great
> >> value without it - it seems to be almost an afterthought anyway.
> >
> > I'm glad to hear this. I don't know how widely this opinion is shared
> > but I hope it is.
> 
> I know other people who love installing from live media. But as I look
> at the sources of value that live media brings to the table that is at
> the bottom of the list.
> 
> I'll add that the biggest shortcoming of the current live media in my
> opinion is that it doesn't include enough software to really showcase
> Fedora in as powerful a way as it could. I would like to see us move
> to live media that includes much more, perhaps as big as 2GB which
> could easily accommodate a full installer being incorporated into it.

Yeh, I think a word processor would help. And gimp. And inkscape. But I
am biased :) 

~m


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