Secondary architectures and marketing

[Jay Estabrook]

Matt Turner wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 5:12 AM, Oliver Falk <oliver at linux-kernel.at> wrote:
>>> Jay Estabrook mentioned to me that he just got xulrunner to compile
>>> again, but only with -O0. If this was ever an issue with Gentoo, it's
>>> long since fixed.
>> -O0 is already gone with the latest build (it's -O2 now). We now only have
>> --no-relax, passed to the linker.
> 
> Which obviously isn't the point.
> 
> It took time and effort to do something that was already done
> elsewhere. By the way, this is also the exact solution used for some
> time on Gentoo.

And was the solution made (truly) public? Where?

Duplicated effort, true, but why WAS it duplicated?

Sure, I read about some custom xulrunner compiles under Debian with
relax and such, but nothing "dpkg'ed", and nothing from Gentoo; ie,
nothing definitive from anywhere.

I confess, I'm as guilty as others; Fedora/Alpha has had (mostly) working
Xserver 1.4.99+ since November, and the patches have gone nowhere else,
AFAIK...

>>> It's a hard question Oliver, but don't you feel that it might be better
>>> for the architecture to join up efforts on one distribution?

I think this is the crux: "one distribution".

Who will pick it?

Regardless of which, Alpha will lose because of "it".

Folks develop where they are comfortable and "know the ropes".

Asking me, born/bred on RH since 2.1 (and that's NOT Fedora Core 2 :-),
to become comfortable enough with the Debian and/or Gentoo
"ropes", would be counter-productive, AT THIS POINT.

In the future, if there is finally only one Alpha distro standing, folks
still interested to develop for Alpha will have to make their own decision
on the changeover effort they are willing to pay.

> Please justify Fedora/Alpha.

Justifying any distro to be "the one", is, IMHO, a waste of time.

What would be better, again IMHO, would be an Alpha "clearinghouse",
where potentially common issues that ALL Alpha distros may face would be
able to be discussed and solved AND TOSE SOLUTIONS MADE PUBLIC.

Initially, there was a linux-alpha KML from "vger" that played the
part, at least with kernel-related stuff, but it's long dead, AFAIK.

I thought that axp-list had become a good bit more distro-agnostic of late,
but it's now glaring obvious that it hasn't, or at least not enough, for
whatever reason(s).

Perhaps resurrecting alphalinux.info and its forums would work?

--Jay++

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Matt
> 
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