Experiences with Elba

[Tommy Craig]

Hi John, 

	Well I'm glad the Braille settings stuck. The command is called save
parimeters. 

	I don't understand why the speech is not staying off. You should
uncheck the speech active box and then do control-q. This is done by
entering dots 1 2 3 4 5 7 8. Then when prompted to save settings press y.
When you go back into the settings the check mark should still be gone. 


Tommy

-----Original Message-----
From: blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com]
On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:59 AM
To: Linux for blind general discussion
Subject: Re: Experiences with Elba


Tommy,

That combination of space and right thumb, followed by pressing the easy 
Access bar down works for setting Grade 2. I don't remember anything 
about this in the manual. What is it called? 

I am still trying to turn off speech. I go to the setup application, pick
voice, go to speech active, press enter to remove the check mark, then
control-q and y. no effect. It still insists on gabbing all the time.
Removing the check mark doesn't even affect the settup menu.

If others on the list would like this d`iscussion taen offlist, let me 
know. However, the Elba does use Linux.

As a Linux user, I want root access, so I want to know the default root 
password.


Thanks,

On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 12:26:52AM -0600, Tommy Craig wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> 	When you are in the application set things the way you want them. 
> Then press the right thumb key and spacebar. release them and within 5 
> seconds press the easy access bar all the way down. This saves your 
> settings for that application.
> 
> You do not need to be root to save settings. If you change settings in 
> the setup menus, either escape until you get prompted to save changes 
> or just enter control-q and you will be prompted to save changes. Type 
> a y and wait about 20 seconds.
> 
> Tommy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com 
> [mailto:blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com]
> On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:05 AM
> To: Linux for blind general discussion
> Subject: Re: Experiences with Elba
> 
> 
> Tommy,
> 
> So how do I change the settings for individual applications? When I go
> to tools and then setup, I get the setup menu and submenus, but there 
> is no hint of setting things individually for different applications. 
> The manual says nothing about this. 
> 
> The Elba does have the su command, but the manual helpfully does not
> give the default password. I really think I have to be root for changes 
> in setup to stick.
> 
> Thanks,
> John
> 
> On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 10:38:16PM -0600, Tommy Craig wrote:
> > Hi John,
> > 
> > 	The address for the Elba group is:
> > 
> > Elba-subscribe at smartgroups.com
> > 
> > 	Please note that the e in Elba is capitolized. The reason that
> speech
> > doesn't stay of is that each application saves it's settings
> > separately. This is so you can have grade 2 in one application and not 
> > in another one or speech on in one application and not in the others. 
> > You can set items in the control center and they should stick unless 
> > you override them in an application.
> > 
> > 	You can enter all the setup menus by typing t for tools and then s
> > for setup. Under this menu you have a number of submenus for setting 
> > speech, braille, networking and much more.
> > 
> > Tommy
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com
> > [mailto:blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com]
> > On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 9:10 PM
> > To: blinux-list at redhat.com
> > Subject: Experiences with Elba
> > 
> > 
> > The Elba is indeed an interesting Linux Braille PDA. However, it 
> > takes some getting used to. So far, I haven't been able to set it to 
> > my preferences. In particular, I can't get it to stop talking. This 
> > is very irritating, since even with my cochlear implant turned off i 
> > can feel the vibrations. Also, if I switch it to Grade 2, it 
> > promptly goes back to computer braille when I change to a different 
> > application. I've tried turning off speech in the setup application 
> > numerous times, with no result. Maybe I have to be root to change 
> > the defaults, but there is no mention of this in the manual.
> > 
> > I haven't been able to subscribe to the Elba mailing list. The 
> > address
> > given here a few days ago doesn't seem to work.
> > 
> > With all that, the Elba has a nice user interface. It is a good
> > example
> > of how the usability generally associated with a GUI can be built into a

> > text-mode interface. 
> > 
> > John
> > 
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