interacting with the cursor:
Kenny Hitt
kenny at hittsjunk.net
Wed Mar 30 03:20:04 UTC 2005
Hi.
True, I was not sure what he meant and just trying to respond based on
what happens with my screen readers and editors.
Kenny
On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 10:09:22PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> Now I'm confused. "Char under the cursor" does not sync with the
> dictionary definition I just posted, where cursor is defined as an
> insertion point indicating where the next char will be placed. My
> understanding is that visually it's actually an indicator between chars,
> therefore accurately indicates where the next c har typed will be
> placed.
>
> PS: NOtice how "back space" is a something of a misnomer. Indeed, if
> memory serves, the behavior of deleting chars to the left of the cursor
> came late into computing.
>
> Kenny Hitt writes:
> > Hi. Your description is a little confusing, but I think the answer to
> > your question is yes.
> >
> > You move the cursor to the right of the char to delete if you use
> > backspace, and you put the cursor on the char to delete if you use the
> > del key. Usually, the screen reader reads the char under the cursor
> > when you use the "read current char" function of the screen reader.
> >
> > As far as I know, Gnopernicus doesnt have a "read current char" key, but
> > it tracks the cursor.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> > Kenny
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 09:26:53PM -0500, david poehlman wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Sorry if this appears twice, I sent it out from the rong address.
> > >
> > > I have a question for users of graphical and non graphical linux users
> > > concerning its screen reader behavior regarding cursor interaction. In
> > > windows screen readers and in dos screen readers with the accetion of some
> > > older dos screen readers, when interacting with the cursor, the screen
> > > reader interacts with the character that is heard when a say character
> > > request is sent. In other words, if I am told by say character that I am
> > > sitting on t and I hit backspace or delete, t is gone. If I type, t is
> > > pushed to the right as I type. If I move to the left of t and type, the
> > > character to the left of t is pushed to the right. If I move to the right
> > > of t and type, the character to the right of t is pushed to the right as I
> > > type. My question then is whether this is the behavior in all flavors of
> > > linux with screen readers and if not, how do the ones that differ behave?
> > > In windows, the cursor is a thin vertical line which is never on a character
> > > but always between characters or to the left of the character or to the
> > > right of the character. The net effect would then be that if one were to
> > > want to delete a character with back space, one would have to be certain to
> > > be to the right of the character to be deleted and if one wanted to use
> > > delete to delete a character, one would need to be the left of the character
> > > to be deleted.
> > >
> > > Answers and discussion would be greatly appreciated. Should windows screen
> > > readers or linux screen readers adopt this strategy if they don't employ it
> > > already? Are their better strategies than those described above and if so,
> > > what are they?
> > >
> > > It might be that the later strategy would be closer to the sighted
> > > experience.
> > >
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