interacting with the cursor:

[david poehlman]

Kenny and all,

The cursor is never on a character as I understand it but the screen readers 
have tweaked the ui or the screen readers have a ui that defines the 
behavior as if the cursor were a block covering a character that you hear. 
When you say that gnoernicus tracks the cursor, in what ehavior with regard 
to ackspace, delete and insert does this produce?

-- 
Johnnie Apple Seed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny at hittsjunk.net>
To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: interacting with the cursor:


Hi.  Your description is a little confusing, but I think the answer to
your question is yes.

You move the cursor to the right of the char to delete if you use
backspace, and you put the cursor on the char to delete if you use the
del key.  Usually, the screen reader reads the char under the cursor
when you use the "read current char" function of the screen reader.

As far as I know, Gnopernicus doesnt have a "read current char" key, but
it tracks the cursor.

Hope this helps.
          Kenny

On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 09:26:53PM -0500, david poehlman wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry if this appears twice, I sent it out from the rong address.
>
> I have a question for users of graphical and non graphical linux users
> concerning its screen reader behavior regarding cursor interaction.  In
> windows screen readers and in dos screen readers with the accetion of some
> older dos screen readers, when interacting with the cursor, the screen
> reader interacts with the character that is heard when a say character
> request is sent.  In other words, if I am told by say character that I am
> sitting on t and I hit backspace or delete, t is gone.  If I type, t is
> pushed to the right as I type.  If I move to the left of t and type, the
> character to the left of t is pushed to the right.  If I move to the right
> of t and type, the character to the right of t is pushed to the right as I
> type.  My question then is whether this is the behavior in all flavors of
> linux with screen readers and if not, how do the ones that differ behave?
> In windows, the cursor is a thin vertical line which is never on a 
> character
> but always between characters or to the left of the character or to the
> right of the character.  The net effect would then be that if one were to
> want to delete a character with back space, one would have to be certain 
> to
> be to the right of the character to be deleted and if one wanted to use
> delete to delete a character, one would need to be the left of the 
> character
> to be deleted.
>
> Answers and discussion would be greatly appreciated.  Should windows 
> screen
> readers or linux screen readers adopt this strategy if they don't employ 
> it
> already?  Are their better strategies than those described above and if 
> so,
> what are they?
>
> It might be that the later strategy would be closer to the sighted
> experience.
>
> -- 
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
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