some bees nest stirring, was just how much can you do with?
Karen Lewellen
klewellen at shellworld.net
Mon Mar 4 20:48:15 UTC 2013
..but why do people think this cannot be done in dos?
I am writing this email right now.
at the same time waiting for me to log off the Internet wordperfect is
waiting for me, and I will go right back to the document I was working on.
As for downloading, granted I download first to shellworld then to my own
computer now. No reason though why I cannot do this especially having
discovered things like elinks ported for dos, or using the lynx package
for it.
As I see it though I can spend the 30 seconds it takes me to download to
get a drink of water or something.
his for me is where having my own machine's built came in. I have enough
memory used in enough of a fsion that I can task swap fast enough.
I have no idea what you are downloading, but I have multi tasked as I am
doing right now for ages.
Karen
On Mon, 4 Mar 2013, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> On 03/04/2013 01:38 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> ...You are avoiding the dos ports question councilor.
>> I personally have never in all my years of computing needed to do
>> anything like the below.
>> I have two hands and two ears, and believe each task deserves my full
>> attention.
>> Besides I can do them so fast in dos anyway that by the time I needed to
>> do this It is over.
>> Multitasking strikes me as a windows thing because windows works so
>> badly.
>> I can listen to a cd while working in dos now if I want to use the
>> computer for that, but why? It is what my real stereo is for lol.
>> ...but again this is totally only and uniquely me.
>> I would never wish to suggest that anyone else on the planet computes
>> like me.
>> such is the beauty of PC as in *personal* computer.
>> Now speak to the ports of Linux things professor!
>
> I won't speak to the DOS ports point, but multitasking predates Windows by
> quite a bit. It's been available on Unix probably since the beginning.
>
> I could not go back to DOS myself and put up with a single tasking system. I
> want to be able to leave my place in an editor or an email message while I
> look something up. I want to be able to start a download and go onto
> something else while I'm waiting for the download to finish. I want to be
> able to kick off a make or a compile that will take a while and go back to
> checking my email. I want to kick off the conversion of a batch of .wmv files
> to .mp3 files, and I don't want to have to sit around and wait for that to
> finish.
>
> Windows is not multi-tasking because it does things so poorly. It's
> multi-tasking because people want to run multiple tasks at the same time just
> like you can in Unix and other operating systems.
>
>> On Mon, 4 Mar 2013, Tim Chase wrote:
>>
>> > On March 4, 2013, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> > Still if elinks and mplayer exist ported for DOS, why go through
>> > > the extreme mayhem of finding someone local enough to learn speakup
>> > > and ora and so forth to teach me in the first place?
>> >
>> > Well, to be able to use Linux which excels at multi-tasking. So
>> > even on the console (without a GUI or Orca), you can run yasr/speakup
>> > to read the screen, but then use either GNU "screen" or "tmux" to run
>> > multiple virtual terminals within that one yasr/speakup session. Thus
>> > you can be browsing with lynx in one process (or more), reading email
>> > in another, playing music in another, have your audio-mixer up all the
>> > time in another (allowing you to adjust the audio on the fly while
>> > other stuff is running), managing files in yet another, etc. I
>> > remember using DOS and having various TSR
>> > (terminate-and-stay-resident) programs to fake multi-tasking but they
>> > never worked very well for me.
>> >
>> > The virtual terminals are cheaply created, usually with the
>> > tmux/screen prefix key followed by "c" (for "create"). You can then
>> > switch between the virtual terminals by using the tmux/screen prefix
>> > key followed either by "n" (next) or "p" (previous) or by directly
>> > jumping to the numbered window with the corresponding number key. In
>> > both tmux and screen, the key mappings are also configurable.
>> >
>> > An added benefit of using tmux/screen is that the sessions can be
>> > detached and then reconnected-to, even from another computer. So you
>> > might be downstairs working on the Linux box, then go upstairs to
>> > your workhorse machine and telnet/ssh into your Linux box and
>> > instruct it to reattach to the session and you can pick up right
>> > where you left off. All without losing any of your work or running
>> > programs.
>> >
>> > -tim
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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