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Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH 1/6] dm raid45 target: export region hash functions and add a needed one



On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 13:21 +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
> On Thursday July 2, heinzm redhat com wrote:
> > 
> > Dan, Neil,

Hi,

back after > 4 days of Internet outage caused by lightning :-(

I'll respond to Neils comments here in order to have a comparable
microbenchmark based on his recommended change
(and one bug I fixed; see below).

> > 
> > like mentioned before I left to LinuxTag last week, here comes an initial
> > take on dm-raid45 warm/cold CPU cache xor speed optimization metrics.
> > 
> > This shall give us the base to decide to keep or drop the dm-raid45
> > internal xor optimization magic or move (part of) it into the crypto
> > subsystem.
> 
> Thanks for doing this.

You're welcome.

> > 
> > 
> > Intel results with 128 iterations each:
> > ---------------------------------------
> > 
> > 1 stripe  : NB:10 111/80 HM:118 111/82
> > 2 stripes : NB:25 113/87 HM:103 112/91
> > 3 stripes : NB:24 115/93 HM:104 114/93
> > 4 stripes : NB:48 114/93 HM:80 114/93
> > 5 stripes : NB:38 113/94 HM:90 114/94
> > 6 stripes : NB:25 116/94 HM:103 114/94
> > 7 stripes : NB:25 115/95 HM:103 115/95
> > 8 stripes : NB:62 117/96 HM:66 116/95 <<<--- cold cache starts here
> > 9 stripes : NB:66 117/96 HM:62 116/95
> > 10 stripes: NB:73 117/96 HM:55 114/95
> > 11 stripes: NB:63 114/96 HM:65 112/95
> > 12 stripes: NB:51 111/96 HM:77 110/95
> > 13 stripes: NB:65 109/96 HM:63 112/95
> 
> These results seem to suggest that the two different routines provide
> very similar results on this hardware, particularly when the cache is cold.
> The high degree of variability might be because you have dropped this:
> 
> > -	/* Wait for next tick. */
> > -	for (j = jiffies; j == jiffies; )
> > -		;
> ??
> Without that, it could be running the test over anything from 4 to 5
> jiffies.
> I note that do_xor_speed in crypto/xor.c doesn't synchronise at the
> start either.  I think that is a bug.
> The variability seem to generally be close to 20%, which is consistent
> with the difference between 4 and 5.
> 
> Could you put that loop back in and re-test?
> 

Reintroduced and rerun tests.

In addition to that I fixed a flaw, which lead to
dm-raid45.c:xor_optimize() running xor_speed() with chunks > raid
devices, which ain't make sense and lead to longer test runs and
erroneous chunk values (e.g. 7 when only 3 raid devices configured).
Hence we could end up with an algorithm claiming it was selected
for > raid devices.

Here's the new results:

Intel Core i7:
--------------
1 stripe  : NB:54 114/94 HM:74 113/93
2 stripes : NB:57 116/94 HM:71 115/94
3 stripes : NB:64 115/94 HM:64 114/94
4 stripes : NB:51 112/94 HM:77 114/94
5 stripes : NB:77 115/94 HM:51 114/94
6 stripes : NB:25 111/89 HM:103 105/90
7 stripes : NB:13 105/91 HM:115 111/90
8 stripes : NB:27 108/92 HM:101 111/93
9 stripes : NB:29 113/92 HM:99 114/93
10 stripes: NB:41 110/92 HM:87 112/93
11 stripes: NB:34 105/92 HM:94 107/93
12 stripes: NB:51 114/93 HM:77 114/93
13 stripes: NB:54 115/94 HM:74 114/93
14 stripes: NB:64 115/94 HM:64 114/93


AMD Opteron:
--------
1 stripe  : NB:0 25/17 HM:128 48/38
2 stripes : NB:0 24/18 HM:128 46/36
3 stripes : NB:0 25/18 HM:128 47/37
4 stripes : NB:0 27/19 HM:128 48/41
5 stripes : NB:0 30/18 HM:128 49/40
6 stripes : NB:0 27/19 HM:128 49/40
7 stripes : NB:0 29/18 HM:128 49/39
8 stripes : NB:0 26/19 HM:128 49/40
9 stripes : NB:0 28/19 HM:128 51/41
10 stripes: NB:0 28/18 HM:128 50/41
11 stripes: NB:0 31/19 HM:128 49/40
12 stripes: NB:0 28/19 HM:128 50/40
13 stripes: NB:0 26/19 HM:128 50/40
14 stripes: NB:0 27/20 HM:128 49/40


Still too much variability...



> > 
> > Opteron results with 128 iterations each:
> > -----------------------------------------
> > 1 stripe  : NB:0 30/20 HM:128 64/53
> > 2 stripes : NB:0 31/21 HM:128 68/55
> > 3 stripes : NB:0 31/22 HM:128 68/57
> > 4 stripes : NB:0 32/22 HM:128 70/61
> > 5 stripes : NB:0 32/22 HM:128 70/63
> > 6 stripes : NB:0 35/22 HM:128 70/64
> > 7 stripes : NB:0 32/23 HM:128 69/63
> > 8 stripes : NB:0 44/23 HM:128 76/65
> > 9 stripes : NB:0 43/23 HM:128 73/65
> > 10 stripes: NB:0 35/23 HM:128 72/64
> > 11 stripes: NB:0 35/24 HM:128 72/64
> > 12 stripes: NB:0 33/24 HM:128 72/65
> > 13 stripes: NB:0 33/23 HM:128 71/64
> 
> Here your code seems to be 2-3 times faster!
> Can you check which function xor_block is using?
> If it is :
>   xor: automatically using best checksumming function: ....
> then it might be worth disabling that test in calibrate_xor_blocks and
> see if it picks one that ends up being faster.

Picks the same sse one automatically/measured on both archs with
obvious variability:

[37414.875236] xor: automatically using best checksumming function:
generic_sse
[37414.893930]    generic_sse: 12619.000 MB/sec
[37414.893932] xor: using function: generic_sse (12619.000 MB/sec)
[37445.679501] xor: measuring software checksum speed
[37445.696829]    generic_sse: 15375.000 MB/sec
[37445.696830] xor: using function: generic_sse (15375.000 MB/sec)


Will get to Dough's recommendation to run loaded benchmarks tomorrow...

Heinz

> 
> There is still the fact that by using the cache for data that will be
> accessed once, we are potentially slowing down the rest of the system.
> i.e. the reason to avoid the cache is not just because it won't
> benefit the xor much, but because it will hurt other users.
> I don't know how to measure that effect :-(
> But if avoiding the cache makes xor 1/3 the speed of using the cache
> even though it is cold, then it would be hard to justify not using the
> cache I think.
> 
> > 
> > Questions/Recommendations:
> > --------------------------
> > Review the code changes and the data analysis please.
> 
> It seems to mostly make sense
>  - the 'wait for next tick' should stay
>  - it would be interesting to see what the final choice of 'chunks'
>    was (i.e. how many to xor together at a time).
>   
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> NeilBrown


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