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Re: [dm-devel] [Multipath] Round-robin performance limit



On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 03:54:35PM -0400, Adam Chasen wrote:
> John,
> I am limited in a similar fashion. I would much prefer to use multibus
> multipath, but was unable to achieve bandwidth which would exceed a
> single link even though it was spread over the 4 available links. Were
> you able to gain even a similar performance of the RAID0 setup with
> the multibus multipath?
> 

Utilizing multiple links works with for example this setup:
- VMware ESXi 4.1 software iSCSI initiator.
- Dell Equallogic iSCSI target.

The steps needed for ESXi are:
- Configure multiple VMkernel (vmkX) IP interfaces.
- Configure ESXi iscsi initiator to use (bind to) all the vmkX interfaces.
- Configure the path selection policy to be RR (RoundRobin).
- Configure multipath to switch paths after 3 IOs.


The same should work with Linux dm-multipath.


-- Pasi

> Thanks,
> Adam
> 
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:07 PM, John A. Sullivan III
> <jsullivan opensourcedevel com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 16:19 -0400, Adam Chasen wrote:
> >> Unfortunately even with playing around with various settings, queues,
> >> and other techniques, I was never able to exceed the bandwidth of more
> >> than one of the Ethernet links when accessing a single multipathed
> >> LUN.
> >>
> >> When communicating with two different multipathed LUNs, which present
> >> as two different multipath devices, I can saturate two links, but it
> >> is still a one to one ratio of multipath devices to link saturation.
> >>
> >> After further research on multipathing, it appears people are using md
> >> raid to achieve multipathed devices. My initial testing of using raid0
> >> md-raid device produces the behavior I expect of multipathed devices.
> >> I can easily saturate both links during read operations.
> >>
> >> I feel using md-raid is a less elegant solution than using
> >> dm-multipath, but it will have to suffice until someone can provide me
> >> some additional guidance.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Adam
> > We recently changed from the RAID0 approach to multipath multibus.
> > RAID0 did seem to give more even performance over a variety of IO
> > patterns but it had a critical flaw.  We could not use the snapshot
> > capabilities of the SAN because we could never be certain of
> > snapshotting the RAID0 disks in a transactionally consistent state.  If
> > I have four disk in a RAID0 array and snapshot them all, how can I be
> > assured that I have not done something like written two of three stripes
> > and no parity.  This was our singular reason for discarding RAID0 over
> > iSCSI for multipath multibus - John
> >
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Adam Chasen <adam chasen name> wrote:
> >> > Malahal,
> >> > After your mentioning bio vs request based I attempted to determine if
> >> > my kernel contains the request based mpath. It seems in 2.6.31 all
> >> > mpath was switched to request based. I have a kernel 2.6.31+ (actually
> >> > .35 and .38), so I believe I have requrest-based mpath.
> >> >
> >> > All,
> >> > There also appears to be a new multipath configuration option
> >> > documented in the RHEL 6 beta documentation:
> >> > rr_min_io_rq    Specifies the number of I/O requests to route to a path
> >> > before switching to the next path in the current path group, using
> >> > request-based device-mapper-multipath. This setting should be used on
> >> > systems running current kernels. On systems running kernels older than
> >> > 2.6.31, use rr_min_io. The default value is 1.
> >> >
> >> > http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6-Beta/html/DM_Multipath/config_file_multipath.html
> >> >
> >> > I have not tested using this setting vs rr_min_io yet or even if my
> >> > system supports the configuration directive.
> >> >
> >> > If I trust some of the claims of several VMware ESX iscsi multipath
> >> > setups, it is possible (possibly using different software) to gain a
> >> > multiplicative throughput by adding additional Ethernet links. This
> >> > makes me hopeful that we can do this with open-iscsi and dm-mulitpath
> >> > as well.
> >> >
> >> > It could be something obvious I am missing, but it appears a lot of
> >> > people experience this same issue.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Adam
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:12 AM, John A. Sullivan III
> >> > <jsullivan opensourcedevel com> wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 22:04 -0700, Malahal Naineni wrote:
> >> >>> John A. Sullivan III [jsullivan opensourcedevel com] wrote:
> >> >>> > I'm also very curious about your findings on rr_min_io.  I cannot find
> >> >>> > my benchmarks but we tested various settings heavily.  I do not recall
> >> >>> > if we saw more even scaling with 10 or 100.  I remember being surprised
> >> >>> > that performance with it set to 1 was poor.  I would have thought that,
> >> >>> > in a bonded environment, changing paths per iSCSI command would give
> >> >>> > optimal performance.  Can anyone explain why it does not?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> rr_min_io of 1 will give poor performance if your multipath kernel
> >> >>> module doesn't support request based multipath. In those BIO based
> >> >>> multipath, multipath receives 4KB requests. Such requests can't be
> >> >>> coalesced if they are sent on different paths.
> >> >> <snip>
> >> >> Ah, that makes perfect sense and why 3 seems to be the magic number in
> >> >> Linux (4000 / 1460 (or whatever IP payload is)).  Does that change with
> >> >> Jumbo frames? In fact, how would that be optimized in Linux?
> >> >>
> >> >> 9KB seems to be a reasonable common jumbo frame value for various
> >> >> vendors and that should contain two pages but, I would guess, Linux
> >> >> can't utilize it as each block must be independently acknowledged. Is
> >> >> that correct? Thus a frame size of a little over 4KB would be optimal
> >> >> for Linux?
> >> >>
> >> >> Would that mean that rr_min_io of 1 would become optimal? However, if
> >> >> each block needs to be acknowledged before the next is sent, I would
> >> >> think we are still latency bound, i.e., even if I can send four requests
> >> >> down four separate paths, I cannot send the second until the first has
> >> >> been acknowledged and since I can easily place four packets on the same
> >> >> path within the latency period of four packets, multibus gives me
> >> >> absolutely no performance advantage for a single iSCSI stream and only
> >> >> proves useful as I start multiplexing multiple iSCSI streams.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is that analysis correct? If so, what constitutes a separate iSCSI
> >> >> stream? Are two separate file requests from the same file systems to the
> >> >> same iSCSI device considered two iSCSI streams and thus can be
> >> >> multiplexed and benefit from multipath or are they considered all part
> >> >> of the same iSCSI stream? If they are considered one, do they become two
> >> >> if they reside on different partitions and thus different file systems?
> >> >> If not, then do we only see multibus performance gains between a single
> >> >> file system host and a single iSCSI host when we use virtualization each
> >> >> with their own iSCSI connection (as opposed to using iSCSI connections
> >> >> in the underlying host and exposing them to the virtual machines as
> >> >> local storage)?
> >> >>
> >> >> I hope I'm not hijacking this thread and realize I've asked some
> >> >> convoluted questions but optimizing multibus through bonded links for
> >> >> single large hosts is still a bit of a mystery to me.  Thanks - John
> >> >>
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