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Re: [dm-devel] Bcache upstreaming

On Fri, Feb 01 2013 at  9:55am -0500,
Tejun Heo <tj kernel org> wrote:

> Hey, Mike.
> On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 09:10:03AM -0500, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > Well judging by the header for commit 49731baa41df404c2c3f44555869ab387363af43  
> > ("block: restore multiple bd_link_disk_holder() support") it just looks
> > like Tejun hates the fact that DM and MD are using this interface.  No
> > alternative is provided; so the "DON'T USE THIS UNLESS YOU'RE ALREADY
> > USING IT." rings hollow.
> The original code was gross regarding kobj handling there so I might
> have overreacted.  Ah right, the refcnt doesn't belong there.  The
> caller should already own both the master and slave devices (creator
> of the former, exclusive opener of the latter) and that really should
> be the extent of ownership that block layer tracks.
> bk_[un]link_disk_holder() implements completely isolated refcnting
> because dm somehow calls the function for the same pair multiple
> times.

You're likely referring to how DM can load an inactive table while a
table is already active.  These active and inactive DM tables can have
the same block devices associated with them.  Loading a table causes the
devices to be opened exclusively with blkdev_get_by_dev.  See
open_dev and close_dev in drivers/md/dm-table.c

> ISTR the problem w/ block layer was that because this adds a separate
> layer of refcnting, it can't be tied to the usual rule of block device
> access.  ie. we really shouldn't need bd_unlink_disk_holder() but the
> linkage's lifetime should be bound to the exclusive open of the slave
> device, which can't currently be done.
> IIRC, there was only one case where this happens in dm, would you be
> interested in tracking that down?  I'd be happy to lose the extra
> refcnting code and tie it back to bdev exclusive open.

I'll have a closer look.

> > Kent was talking about using MD (and though he isn't opposed to DM he
> > doesn't care to integrate with DM himself).  Either DM or MD would
> > implicitly enable bcache to use this interface.  But in the near-term I
> > cannot see why Kent shouldn't be able to use bd_link_disk_holder too.
> Being part of dm or dm should make this mostly irrelevant, no?

Sure, but I don't pretend to know when bcache will make use of either.

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