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Re: [dm-devel] [patch v3]DM: dm-insitu-comp: a compressed DM target for SSD



On Tue, Mar 18 2014 at  9:45pm -0400,
Shaohua Li <shli kernel org> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 05:28:43PM -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 18 2014 at  3:41am -0400,
> > Shaohua Li <shli kernel org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 04:00:40PM -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I folded your changes in, and then committed a patch ontop that cleans
> > > > some code up.  But added 2 FIXMEs that still speak to pretty fundamental
> > > > problems with the architecture of the dm-insitu-comp target, see:
> > > > https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/snitzer/linux.git/commit/?h=for-3.15-insitu-comp&id=8565ab6b04837591d03c94851c2f9f9162ce12f4
> > > > 
> > > > Unfortunately the single insitu_comp_wq workqueue that all insitu-comp
> > > > targets are to share isn't a workable solution.  Each target needs to
> > > > have resource isolation from other targets (imagine insitu-comp used for
> > > > multiple SSDs).  This is important for suspend too because you'll need
> > > > to flush/stop the workqueue.
> > > 
> > > Is this just because of suspend? I didn't see fundamental reason why the
> > > workqueue can't be shared even for several targets.
> > 
> > I'm not seeing how you are guaranteeing that all queued work is
> > completed during suspend.  insitu_comp_queue_req() just calls
> > queue_work_on().
> > 
> > BTW, queue_work_on()'s comment above its implementation says:
> > "We queue the work to a specific CPU, the caller must ensure it can't go
> > away." -- you're not able to insure a cpu isn't hotplugged so... but I
> > also see you've used it in your raid5 perf improvement changes so you
> > obviously have experience with using this interface.
> 
> Good point, I did miss this. the raid5 case hold a lock, while this case
> doesn't. A fix is attached below.

I've pushed it to the branch.
 
> > > > You introduced a state machine for tracking suspending, suspended,
> > > > resumed.  This really isn't necessary.  During suspend you need to
> > > > flush_workqueue().  On resume you shouldn't need to do anything special.
> > > > 
> > > > As I noted in the commit, the thin and cache targets can serve as
> > > > references for how you can manage the workqueue across suspend/resume
> > > > and the lifetime of these workqueues relative to .ctr and .dtr.
> > > 
> > > As far as I checking the code, .postsuspend is called after all requests are
> > > finished. This already guarantees no pending requests running in insitu-comp
> > > workqueue.
> > 
> > I could easily be missing something obvious, but I don't see where that
> > guarantee is implemented.
> 
> Alright, so this is the divergence. dm_suspend() calls dm_wait_for_completion()
> and then dm_table_postsuspend_targets(). As far as I understand,
> dm_wait_for_completion() will wait all pending requests to finish. The comments
> declaim this too. Am I missing anything?
> 
> Basically the two kinds of IO. IO requests from upper layer, which
> dm_wait_for_completion() will guarantee they are finished. Metadata IO
> requests, which .postsuspend should make sure they are finished.

OK, I see.  You don't have the notion of a transaction, that I can see,
so this this begs the question: what kind of crash consistency/recovery
are you providing?  Seems that the metadata writeback support is
allowing for more potential for lost data on a crash.

Also, it isn't clear how you're coping with the potential for a crash
while updating a extent (when metadata bits are borrowed from the tail,
etc).  Without transaction a block (or extent of blocks) could be
partially updated, how are you guaranteeing the corresponding data is
either entirely old or new?  The compressed nature of this data makes a
requirement for atomic updates to occur here.  Are you somehow
leveraging Fusion-io SSD to provide such guarantee?

So effectively there are concerns about data integrity of this target
that need answering.  Unfortunately I'm running low on time I can
dedicate to continued review of this target and need to transition to
other priorities.

> > > Doing a workqueue flush isn't required. The writeback thread is
> > > running in background and waiting for requests completion can't guarantee the
> > > thread isn't running, so we must make sure it is safely parked.
> > 
> > Sure, but you don't need a state machine to do that.  The DM core takes
> > care of calling these hooks, so you just need to stop the writeback
> > thread during suspend and (re)start/kick it on resume (preresume).
> 
> Yep, I need wait the writeback thread finish all pending metadata IO, the state
> machine works well here.

I see what you've done, I get that you're using the state machine to
wait but I still contend it isn't needed.  Like I said before, just
stop writeback in suspend and restart on resume.  No state is needed.


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