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Re: BUG: clamav packages badly broken

Michael Schwendt wrote:

Funny. The differerent design of the Fedora clamav packages has been a
topic on various lists long ago. Actually, there's some rationale behind
the complexity of the Fedora clamav packages:

They're not "complex". They're broken.

I can come up with countless examples of applications much more complex than clamav - their packages just work when installed.

Apache - it can do virtual hosts, reverse proxy and all sorts of fancy things. But the RPM package, once installed, Simply Works with a minimal setup. "service httpd start" launches a valid, working instance of the Apache server. Want more than just the basics? Sure, knock yourself out, read the docs, change it.

Postfix - capable of doing virtual hosting, accounts via LDAP, the whole shebang. But the RPM package, once installed, launches an MTA with the basic functionality. You can surely tweak it to do a whole lot more. But initially it Simply Works: "service postfix start" and voila.

Clamav - install it, try to launch it, it fails. A lot of hacking is required to enable even the most basic functions. I cannot call that anything but broken.

The packages include
%doc files. You can't avoid reading them.

Yes, I can, and I should - if all I want is the most basic functionality. An RPM package should just work, with the basic functions enabled, once it's installed. This is true for more than 99% of all the RPM packages out there. For some reason, clamav is deemed to be a very special case, although there's nothing so special about this software to justify releasing an RPM package that does not work out of the box.

The packages are not compatible
with Dag's packages. They have never been compatible with Dag's. This is
no secret.

Nobody asked for compatibility with Dag's, nor is that a reasonable request.

Asking for basic functionality to just work out of the box, though, is a reasonable request, which the current clamav packages in EPEL fail to meet.

They do work, albeit differently than Dag's.

Not the packages I installed today, they don't. Proof: install them, then run "service clamav-wrapper start" (or whatever is the name of that broken symlink). Anything happened at all?

Florin Andrei


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