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Re: remove fedora-usermgmt?



On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 05:36:29PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:49:16 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote:
> 
> > > For the different behaviour you would first need to enable fedora-usermgmt
> > > via the alternatives system.
> > 
> > Which rather proves that it is useless. You either have the default
> > unpredictable behaviour, or you need to configure global resources *per
> > host* or *per site*.
> 
> Which is possible due to fedora-usermgmt packaging features. I haven't
> said that it is pretty or as easy as a one-line kickstart option.

It's not about a beauty contest, it's about whether this is something
we want to see being tuned like that at all. I wonder how many of the
packagers making use of fedora-usermgmt are really aware that they are
not really creating predictable uids/gids? And how many of them do
rely on this feature and are falsely deceived?

If your package works with plain useradd -r, that's OK, the use
that. If not, then fedora-usermgmt does *not* save your day. Even
worse: It may look localy as if it does and when deployed to users
your package will boom.

> > The default behaviour which accounts for 99.99% of all users is that
> > people don't even know there is something to configure.
> 
> The same percentage of users doesn't configure UID_*/GID_* either.

Indeed, that's why we don't ship a tool that changes these values, and
so why should we do so for useradd/fedora-usermgmt?
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net

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