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Re: Overlap policy v20120615

On 06/15/2012 12:54 PM, inode0 wrote:
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Orion Poplawski <orion cora nwra com> wrote:
On 06/15/2012 11:43 AM, inode0 wrote:

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin scrye com> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:27:30 -0500
inode0 <inode0 gmail com> wrote:

I'm sorry if this has been answered before and I have forgotten the
answer but why are the lb and ha bits excluded? Was there a request
from the RHEL side to exclude them?

They were added to our buildsystem a while back because they contained
dependencies that were used by epel packages. There wasn't a formal
request that I know of, but it was requested by several maintainers.

I suppose we could look at dropping them.

No, I don't want them dropped from the build system. I want to know
why piranha can't be packaged by EPEL for example?

Well, piranha is shipped by ScientificLinux (and probably CentOS),
presumably because the srpm is in 6Server, so you would end up with
conflicts there.  If you are a paying RedHat customer and want support,
presumably you would purchase the relevant channel as well to get piranha?

Oh, I missed the EPEL does not conflict with packages shipped by CentOS rule?!

Some paying RHEL customers use the two packages for LB from CentOS now
and would rather use them from EPEL. This is not a logical reason to
treat lb and ha differently from anything else CentOS might ship. Not
to mention RHEL users who get puppet from EPEL when they could pay Red
Hat for that too. My problem is mostly just that this seems completely
arbitrary to me.

Well, the reason I contribute and maintain packages in EPEL is to support my CentOS and Scientific Linux servers. I suspect that is true for a lot of other EPEL contributors as well, so I don't think that is a constituency to brush off lightly. And I suspect the original "srpms found in 6Server, etc" rule was made very much with the EL rebuilds in mind.

I also don't see a terribly big difference between pulling packages from CentOS or from EPEL. Wouldn't they have to be the same anyways?

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