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[Toshio Kuratomi]

On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 21:19 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
> On 7/23/07, Karsten Wade <kwade at redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 18:51 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
> > > I was told in IRC that my Fedora account (non-bugzilla) needed a
> > > particular group, which appeared to be confirmed by:
> > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/#head-69a2fdca9900f61c9b53d353b2bc5b09d58fdf70
> >
> > On the face of it, it seems broken to require anything more than a plain
> > ol' bugzilla account to file and comment on bugs, and close any you
> > filed.  I insist on the need for the account so there is a way to
> > contact a reporter - email address thereby being the sole requirement.
> 
> I want to do more than that; I want to help triage and organize bugs.
> But apparently that requires a fedora account.
> 
> More generally, the wiki implies that any contribution (even bug
> filing) requires a Fedora account.

I'm not the author of that wiki page but I think it is a bit broken.

* To file, comment, and close bugs that you open only requires a
bugzilla account.

* To triage, organize, close dupes and have other advanced permissions
on bugs that you don't own means you need to have a Fedora Account with
the fedorabugs group attached.
  * IIRC, membership in fedorabugs was brought up in a FESCo meeting
with the eventual understanding that one did not need to file the CLA in
order to be in fedorabugs.  So all you need to do triage should be a
fedora account with fedorabugs.

So we need to have a page that better explains what to do to be able to
triage bugs.  Something like, "talk to any of these five people to have
yourself added to fedorabugs.  Doing x or y beforehand will let them
know you'll do a good job if you aren't already known in the Fedora
Community.  Go to town."

It could be the QA page but if Will has a reason to require the CLA for
some of the projects mentioned on that page, then it needs to be clear
that there are two different roles being asked for with two different
sets of requirements.

-Toshio
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