Fedora Board Recap 2008-AUG-05

John Poelstra poelstra at redhat.com
Thu Aug 7 00:39:44 UTC 2008


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Meetings/2008-08-05

= Fedora Project Board Meeting :: Tuesday 2008-08-05 =

== Roll Call ==

* Attendees: John Poelstra, Chris Tyler, Spot Callaway, Paul Frields, 
Matt Domsch, Harald Hoyer, Jesse Keating, Karsten Wade, Seth Vidal
* Regrets: Bill Nottingham, Jef Spaleta

== Codecs (2008-05-13) ==
* Need to restart discussion on fedora-advisory-board redhat com to get 
plans in place at the start of F10
* Chris Aillon to make contact with Bastien Nocera to find out what 
current plans are
* Waiting on bug 438225 to proceed
** this change will enable auto-provide for codec information
** For Fedora 10 removing Codeina and using the distribution's built-in 
mechanism to install packages (if 438255) is implemented
** For Fluendo to continue to provide codecs to Fedora they will need to 
provide them as packages in a yum repo
** This errs on the side of more "free-ish" software
'''RESOLUTION''':
# ACTION :: Paul - request feature page from developer
# FESCo should track bug 438225 since this falls into their mandate
'''FOLLOWUP''' (2008-08-05):
* Feature page still in the works and FESCo is tracking bug 438225

== Trademark Guidelines (2008-07-01) ==
* Board would like to help guide the process of expanding the use of the 
Fedora trademark
* Helpful to brainstorm by thinking of Fedora trademark usage in four ways:
# Things the board wants Fedora to be able to do with the trademark
# Things the board wants the Fedora community to be able to freely do 
with trademark
# Things the board wants other people to reasonably be expected to be 
able to do, but ask the Fedora Board first
# Things that the board never wants people to use the Fedora trademark for
* '''OWNER''': Paul Frields
* '''ACTIONS''':
*# circulate ideas and foster discussion on 
fedora-advisory-board at redhat.com list
*# return feedback to the board for discussion on: 2008-08-05
*# Latest updates: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/NewTrademarkGuidelines (see 
also discussion tab)
'''FOLLOWUP''' (2008-08-05):
* Board definitely wants a Fedora trademark of some sorts for spins and 
other uses--derivative works
* Still unsure on how best to proceed on issues related to:
*# official spins
*# unofficial spins
*# branded USB keys
*# OEM pre-loads
*# Fedora business cards
*# Fedora apparel and conference materials (see section on Non-software 
goods)
* Everyone should add uncovered use cases to wiki page (see above) ASAP
* Paul Frields will be working with Red Hat Legal starting this week to 
move the process forward

== board elections (2008-07-01) ==
* Background:
** Recent discussion on fedora-advisory-board-list
** Should we consider term limits
** Are there ways to remove the distinction some folks see between those 
that work at Red Hat and those that do not?

* Response:
** Community vote is an open process
** Number of FAS accounts does not necessarily reflect number of 
contributors
** How should low turn out be interpreted?
**# People didn't know?
**# People are happy with how things are and do not see a need to change 
them?
**# Other possibilities include apathy or difficulties with the process
** Could we do an analysis of voter turnout based on FAS group?
**# Groups where total membership is less than 10 people, exclude group 
from analysis
**# Interested in identifying groups where we might be seen as 
irrelevant and can do a better job of engaging.
**# Whatever we do will be published
** Could community members qualifying to vote be reminded via email?
*# reminding them to vote at the beginning
*# send a reminder at the end to people who have not voted
** Term limits are a good idea.  Let the community help craft what they 
think the right policy should be on fedora-advisory-board at redhat.com list.

* '''ACTIONS''':
# file ticket with infrastructure requesting a mail delivery mechanism 
added to FAS
#* keep it generic so that other groups can use it--not just limited to 
voting
#* https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/675
# circulate ideas and foster discussion on 
fedora-advisory-board at redhat.com list about term limits and guidelines 
around them
#* '''OWNER''': Seth Vidal
#* set a time limit for feedback
#* return feedback to the board for discussion on: 2008-08-05
'''RESOLUTION''':
* There did not appear to be any consensus on fedora-advisory-board 
list related to term limits
* Paul Frields withdraws written proposal related to term limits
* Board will consider future proposals if someone writes one up and puts 
it forward
* No future action at this time

== Privacy Policy (2008-07-29) ==
* Tom's draft has been at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TomCallaway/PrivacyPolicyDraft for two 
weeks and comments have been handled
** We cannot guarantee FAS submitted email addresses' privacy because an 
outside (non- at fp.o) email address must be used for Bugzilla
** No retention clauses exist in the draft, people should be able to 
request a purge if they leave
* Voting application could be further refined to disconnect voting data
from accounts
* Board to reconsider policy for a vote
# ACTION :: Tom - Make change that allows email address to be public
# ACTION :: Tom - Add a retention policy
# ACTION :: Tom - Create Infrastructure ticket with details on
decoupling voting data from account data
'''RESOLUTION''' (2008-08-05):
* Spot made all proposed changes
* All present board members voted in favor of the new policy
* New privacy policy can take effect immediately and a link to it will 
be posted  on the wiki front page
* Also send announcement to fedora-announce-list
** There is no mechanism to email all group users at this time
** Ticket was filed and could be used for this process: 
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/675

== Package Reviews (2008-07-29) ==
* Board wants to ensure FESCo is driving interest in package reviews
* Board also wants to ensure it is helping FESCo create an adequate 
basis for getting that additional contributor help
** Queue is very lengthy, over 800 packages at last count
** This may drive update statistics
'''RESOLUTION''':
# ACTION :: Paul - Request contributor to produce statistics for review 
queue on a regular basis in Fedora Weekly news
# ACTION :: Karsten - On Docs team, drive priority wiki gardening of the 
packaging and package review guidelines to make contributor uptake
easier
'''FOLLOWUP''' (2008-08-05)
* Karsten--in process
* Paul
** Jon Stanley has the ability to create statistics and also goes well 
with Jason Tibbitts effort to improve process
** hope to get into FWN next week

== Task Tracking  ==
* Would the board or community benefit from more detailed tracking of 
board tasks?
* Could result in more work for board secretary
DECISION: For now it appears the board meeting summaries are sufficient.

== Next Meeting ==
* irc.freenode.net
* Join #fedora-board-meeting to see the Board's conversation
* Join #fedora-board-public to discuss topics and post questions
* Announcement has been sent to fedora-advisory-board list
* Greg Dk to moderate




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