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Re: [Fedora-packaging] supporting closed source operating systems? (was: Early MinGW packaging guidelines draft)

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:57:57AM +0300, Axel Thimm wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 04:58:20PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/MinGW
> What is Fedora's motivation is promoting using Open Source on a closed
> source operating system? This is beyond the FPC to decide as this is a
> technical committee, but still a valid question and maybe one that the
> board should be investigating.
> F/LOSS often had and has to compromise on its base principles to get a
> lift-off, and so does Fedora (the current exception for firmwares is
> such a compromise). Before there was a Linux kernel, the GNU project
> was "supporting" closed source Unices and by design still does so.
> But we're beyond the age of this kind of symbiosis, Linux (or
> GNU/Linux ...) and Fedora in particular doesn't need this anymore. In
> fact when a patch in a Fedora package is made it often doesn't matter
> if it works on other Unices, sometimes not even for the Free ones.

If we're beyond the age of symbiosis, we can remove SAMBA from Fedora
then, because that's only needed for interoperability with closed
source products.

I'd love to believe that Fedora and F/LOSS had achieved world domination
but sadly we're still fighting the battle, though unquestionably further
along than we were just a few years ago. One of the best things about
F/LOSS is that there are soo many projects breaking down proprietry walled
gardens, but providing interoperability with closed source produts/platforms.
This is providing users an escape path, allowing them to migrate to Fedora.

SAMBA is a great example of this.  We want Fedora+libvirt to provide the
escape path for people running VMWare + Windows, and for this to work we
need to provide the libirt clients for Windows platforms. This enables
them to switch out VMWare in favour of Fedora + Xen/KVM, without having
to migrate their entire desktop environment from Windows to Linux at the
same time.

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