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Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"

Dear F-a-b,

Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Gregory Zysk and I am a new member to the Fedora community who is interested in the strategic management/leadership of Fedora. Please take the time to view my wiki here:


As I am quite new, I am not sure about the prior work that has been done to define the question of "What is the Fedora Project?" but from my personal experiences so far every user and contributor view this question in their own way (i.e People person vs. packager/developer, etc)

I believe in order to truly form a strategy for growth and target a specific user segment, we need apply some research internally and externally. If not applied already, as a form of Organizational Development, one can start with measuring the needs and values of a contributor through sampling. We can reciprocate this process for all positions within Fedora and then move to the outside of the organization to sample a group of "external" users. For instance, those who use other open source distros, proprietary OS's and the like (This can be accomplished through surveys or focus groups on-line or off-line at for example Fedora events). Once we gain this data, we can begin to measure these needs and values to that of Fedora's needs and values (at a management/leadership level) to see if they are in alignment. One can also view this as aligned resources for strategic fit.

I believe once we get some solid data, then we can start to forecast and plan for strategic development which in turn can be used to steer the marketing team and the ambassadors in the way we would like to position ourselves at events, as well as the open source market.

Once again, since I am new, I am not sure if this has been brought up before, but nonetheless, I believe I can help a great deal in regards to this topic and overall organizational management, development and planning.  I look forward to hearing your comments and suggestions.

All the best,

Gregory Zysk

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip kanarip com> wrote:
On 10/09/2009 05:55 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:

A bit late to this thread -- my apologies.  Here's what I believe, and forgive
me if it's too fuzzy and meta.

I believe that the Fedora leadership should stake out positions that they
believe to be correct, and should work to mobilize resources that move us in
those directions.  That's what leadership is for, and that should be the
primary mission of the Board.

I also believe, however, that the Board must guarantee the freedom for
dissenting community members to move in their own directions.  Fedora's
governance was built to ensure precisely this freedom.  The Board is empowered
to bless the "Foo Project", but any Fedora contributor is free to form the
"Anti-Foo SIG," even if the goal of that SIG is to prove, through their
constructive actions, that the direction of the "Foo Project" is wrong.

It concerns me that we seem to be taking a tone that encourages us to exclude
people, as though it is strictly necessary to tell people "we don't care about
that, go away".  It is not necessary to do this. Rather, I believe that we
should say "we care primarily about *this*, and so we will focus on it, but we
understand that you care primarily about *that*, and we welcome your attempts
to make *that* happen as well."

I don't think anyone has said or implied that anyone will be telling
someone else to leave the project, in fact I'm pretty sure any comment on
that topic has been firmly against that.

Maybe not in this topic, but you can see where "we don't care about that, go away" in some recent discussion(s) describes the attitude of some more accurately, then would "we care primarily about *this*, (..) but we understand that you care primarily about *that*, and we welcome your attempts to make *that* happen as well".

I think gdk intended to say "go away" more in a sense of "get *that* out of our sight" then to say "leave the project now".

-- Jeroen

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