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Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"

On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 13:33 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Tom spot Callaway (tcallawa redhat com) said: 
> > I do however, tend to agree with this user's conclusions: Fedora needs a
> > measure of controlled stability and improved usability.
> > 
> > I think there are a few things that we need to do to accomplish that:
> > 
> > * Fedora needs a dedicated focus on usability. This is something that
> > requires coordinating the efforts of designers and programmers, along
> > with usability testing. I'm proud to have been able to take the first
> > baby step towards that by providing Mo with a portable Usability lab, so
> > we can begin gathering data and doing research, but there is much that
> > still needs to be done.
> I'd agree here. I think I'm like many people here - I don't necessarily
> have the ability to make good design, but I can recognize bad ones. A
> non-trivial amount of software (that we ship, even!) falls into the bad
> category, and it's because there wasn't much thought given to the design
> when it was created (whether it's user interface, admin interface, or
> even API design.) 

Doesn't this kind of thing only work where we're the upstream, or we
have direct heavy influence on the upstream?  How useful is pointing out
terrible UI on software where we're just the packager, and upstream
doesn't agree with us?  We're no longer a community of producers, a
large part of our contributors are just consuming upstream and putting
it in Fedora.

Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

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